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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: "Wedler, Christoph" <christoph.wedler@sap.com>,
	"Fabián E.Gallina" <fabian@anue.biz>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: antlr-mode.el - need some support by python.el
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 21:16:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1tkxbqu9.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54F78E3B.1080000@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:59:07 +0200")

> The question is, do you really expect to be burned by unexpected
> narrowing/widening in indentation code.

I'm not sure what you mean by that question: if the outer mode uses
narrowing to specify the bounds of the chunk, then indentation code
can't use `widen'.  Use of narrowing inside the indentation code will be
fine, but use of widen will not.  Yet, "grep widen lisp/progmodes/*.el"
suggests that it's probably used by several indenters.

So, yes, I expect problems.

> Or to put it in a different way, the lack of an API (which encourages people
> use some unseemly approach) is not the same as an API that relies on
> it. Because we won't have to support it for ever and ever.

I think specifying the chunk bounds via some dynamically-scoped var is
a pretty safe option.  Maybe it will be supplanted in the future by some
other alternative, but it doesn't impose any particular implementation
constraint, contrary to the use of narrowing.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-10  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-16 19:50 antlr-mode.el - need some support by python.el Wedler, Christoph
2015-01-16 23:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-05 11:39   ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-05 14:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-06 15:14       ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-06 17:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-13 10:56           ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-13 19:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-16 14:38               ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-16 19:23                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 10:55                   ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18  0:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 14:27                       ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18  3:39                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-18  5:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-18 14:13                     ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18 15:13                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-18 15:41                       ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18 17:56                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19  2:43                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-19  3:20                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19  3:30                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-19 13:18                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-21 22:14                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-25 11:05                                   ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-03-01 17:04                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-01 22:16                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-02  5:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-02 15:08                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-02 16:48                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-02 18:04                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-02 18:51                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-02 19:31                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-03 16:32                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-04 16:53                                                     ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-03-04 17:20                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-05  9:46                                                         ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-03-05 12:29                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-05 12:43                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-02 14:10                                                         ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-04-07 17:49                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-09 14:07                                                             ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-04-09 18:13                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-03 14:14                                                                 ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-06-03 15:31                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-05 14:17                                                                     ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-06-05 17:46                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-08  9:12                                                                         ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-06-08 13:26                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-08 16:02                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-08 20:50                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-08 21:33                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-09  9:07                                                                                   ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-06-09 15:58                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-09 19:05                                                                                       ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-06-15 11:02                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-08 13:18                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-04 17:37                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-04 22:26                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-04 22:59                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-10  1:16                                                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-03-21 15:30                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-21 17:08                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 23:41                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-22 13:54                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-22 19:31                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-22 21:59                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-23 14:03                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-23 19:25                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-04 16:29                                                   ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-03-04 17:16                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-01 22:25                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-18 12:22                   ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18 15:29                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-18 16:10                       ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18 22:55                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-25 11:16                           ` Wedler, Christoph
2015-02-18  3:15               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-22  7:52 ` Andreas Röhler

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