From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20078: imap with openssl Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:24:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1426170328 15293 80.91.229.3 (12 Mar 2015 14:25:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20078@debbugs.gnu.org To: William F Hammond Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 12 15:25:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YW432-00005r-2W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:25:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60294 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YW431-0005wd-Dx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40343) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YW42u-0005v8-I5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:25:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YW42o-00051a-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YW42o-00051O-Nl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YW42o-0007lC-9M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20078 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: security Original-Received: via spool by 20078-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20078.142617025529757 (code B ref 20078); Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20078) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2015 14:24:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YW422-0007jt-SM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:30521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YW421-0007jf-4Q for 20078@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:24:13 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsTAPOG1lRFpZs2/2dsb2JhbABbgwaDX4VTwGUEAgKBDUQBAQEBAQF8hA0BBAFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIg4CM4jAQEBAQYBAQEBHo8nAQFPB4QqBalygUUihAoigTyBNwEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: ArsTAPOG1lRFpZs2/2dsb2JhbABbgwaDX4VTwGUEAgKBDUQBAQEBAQF8hA0BBAFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIg4CM4jAQEBAQYBAQEBHo8nAQFPB4QqBalygUUihAoigTyBNwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.09,536,1418101200"; d="scan'208";a="113373942" Original-Received: from 69-165-155-54.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.155.54]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 12 Mar 2015 10:24:07 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5E2372092; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:24:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (William F. Hammond's message of "Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:47:03 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:100405 Archived-At: > There's discussion in those threads about whether 'anyone' still uses > imap.el and its calls to external openssl. It arises, for example, when > using mail-sources with, say, nnmbox. I consider imap.el's use of an external process to be a bug. > My 'crisis' arose in a sun/solaris system where neither starttls nor gnutls > is available. It seems that starttls is now no longer maintained (for > cause) and, in my case, gnutls is not easy to build from source because of > recursive library dependencies. Hmm... we're definitely moving in the direction of requiring libgnutls when building Emacs. > Would it make sense for emacs to incorporate gnutls? No, there be dragons. > That way one could be sure for a given build of emacs that it would > work with gnutls. That would just mean that you wouldn't be able to build Emacs without first solving the "recursive library dependencies". But yes, I encourage you to try and solve these gnutls build problems, Stefan