From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: text-quoting-style Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83r3mn50rz.fsf@gnu.org> <20150828172501.GB4882@acm.fritz.box> <20150829155959.GA20484@acm.fritz.box> <20150830131613.GA2724@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440984693 13558 80.91.229.3 (31 Aug 2015 01:31:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 01:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 31 03:31:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWDwN-0007my-3I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 03:31:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33389 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWDwM-00079W-7g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35317) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWDw3-00077m-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWDw2-0003xY-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:27100) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWDvy-0003vh-PW; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:30:54 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0AyFgA731xV//rn92hcgxCEAoVVu0CHSwQCAoE8OhMBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNdAQEDAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBBwIBH4s6hQUHhC0BBJ8Xg2uSAiOEFCKCeAEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0AyFgA731xV//rn92hcgxCEAoVVu0CHSwQCAoE8OhMBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNdAQEDAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIg3CM8jAQEBBwIBH4s6hQUHhC0BBJ8Xg2uSAiOEFCKCeAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="161898101" Original-Received: from 104-247-231-250.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([104.247.231.250]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 30 Aug 2015 21:30:54 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 86B6FAE11E; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:30:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20150830131613.GA2724@acm.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:16:13 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189328 Archived-At: > A user should have control over the handling of curly quotes in her > Emacs. For starters, I reject this statement, because it is much too broad. And since enough add-advice can take care of it already, there's no need for any config var just to satisfy this theoretical need. IOW, please be a lot more concrete. > The current and only mechanism for controlling these curly quotes is > text-quoting-style. "Controlling these curly quotes" is very vague. > when one needs a locale with more than ASCII, yet doesn't want curly > quotes, Where exactly does this hypothetical user not want curly quotes? And why? What is/are the concrete problems these characters cause? E.g. text-quoting-style doesn't prevent the existence of curly quotes in Emacs, so for some interpretation of the above it's not sufficient. And for other interpretations the problem could be solved some other way. Stefan