From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs tracker builds character Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:56:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa5sa176.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <874m7kmkcm.fsf@gmx.de> <87zipc8gx2.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469033850 2720 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2016 16:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:57:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 20 18:57:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuoD-0006KQ-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:57:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35845 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuoD-0007jn-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPum2-0006CO-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:55:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuly-0003X1-9L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPuly-0003WY-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPulw-00050g-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:55:00 +0200 Original-Received: from modemcable106.219-58-74.mc.videotron.ca ([74.58.219.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:55:00 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by modemcable106.219-58-74.mc.videotron.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:55:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: modemcable106.219-58-74.mc.videotron.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:K9GeUorMJemP1yYUXoxE+TFhUEc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205904 Archived-At: > IMHO that's not an actual requirement. It's an implementation detail. I think at the time, working similarly to the old bug-gnu-emacs mailing-list was a clear desire. And I think it's probably still the case that we'd want our bug-tracker to be usable via email for those who want to (tho it's probably OK if only the main functions are available via this UI). > The actual requirement was probably about disconnected operation or > something like that. Yes, I agree that this is the crucial point. That's my motivation for developing BugIt (https://gitlab.com/monnier/bugit). I haven't had much time to devote to it lately, tho, so it's stuck at the stage of "proof of concept" right now. > The bug tracker should be aware of repositories, branches, commits, > contributors, and ticket links or mentions in commit messages. I've never seen a bug-tracker do anything really useful with those (other than what you can get by embedding URLs in the bug description/discussion), so I'd be interested to hear more (tho it could be difficult to retro-fit it into BugIt since BugIt is designed to be fundamentally an issue/ticket-tracking system not necessarily related to "code" or to any kind of VCS repository). > Contributors should be able to tag and notify each other. You mean to (re)assign bugs to particular persons and things like that? > Markdown etc. should be well supported. Right. In BugIt I decided to skip the "etc." part, tho. > Inline code comments should be easy, and linked to a commit (so an > updated commit can resolve the comment). How do you "update a commit"? What does "resolve a comment" mean? > I think this is not something you can solve with patches or good UI. > It requires a tool architected correctly from the start. Such tools > exist aplenty. Do you have a recommendation of something you consider well-designed (not necessarily for Emacs's use, so I could look at it)? Stefan