From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: When should ralloc.c be used? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:45:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <831szqhbc2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1itt79z.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <7baa18d4-2b09-caa8-005e-29008a383ad1@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvhwrgd5.fsf@gnu.org> <8539f38f-9a11-44c3-4de7-bb974c96206c@cs.ucla.edu> <838ttfnmev.fsf@gnu.org> <837f8znk8f.fsf@gnu.org> <83zilvm2ud.fsf@gnu.org> <83r377m0i8.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg36n6v5.fsf@gnu.org> <83funm5j1l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477313167 32560 195.159.176.226 (24 Oct 2016 12:46:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:46:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 24 14:46:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1byedI-0005Ro-OI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:45:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byedL-0007o4-4o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byecp-0007nn-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byeco-0002eD-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:26697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byecj-0002Yo-Ue; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:45:06 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0BHAgALW9BX/++F+M5dGwEBAQMBAQGDLQEBAQEBHoRNhVCEZasRggOGFgQCAoFpORQBAgEBAQEBAQFeJ4RiAQEDAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiFUIvFUBAQgCJYp9ihwBBI4mizORFYd4hguPDYE+HjaEbCCGCgEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0BHAgALW9BX/++F+M5dGwEBAQMBAQGDLQEBAQEBHoRNhVCEZasRggOGFgQCAoFpORQBAgEBAQEBAQFeJ4RiAQEDAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiFUIvFUBAQgCJYp9ihwBBI4mizORFYd4hguPDYE+HjaEbCCGCgEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.30,296,1470715200"; d="scan'208";a="276907747" Original-Received: from 206-248-133-239.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.133.239]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 24 Oct 2016 08:45:04 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4ACED6622D; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:45:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83funm5j1l.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:59:34 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208677 Archived-At: > It looks like either people don't realize what a land mine we just > stepped on, or they simply don't care enough. [...] > Does it make sense to anyone to release Emacs 25.2 that doesn't work > reliably on recent GNU/Linux systems? Because that's what is going to > happen if we don't invest all the resources we have into solving this. I must be missing something: you seem to know about past severe problems we've had because of fragmentation, whereas I can't remember any such occurrence. Stefan