From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zgn4nsui.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." , xenodasein@tutanota.de To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 06 16:22:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjMq-00005z-Av for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 16:22:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33670 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjMp-0005v0-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:22:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40784) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjM2-00056j-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:21:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:46564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjM0-0004Nk-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:21:29 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4C0EA100189; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 10:20:52 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A654B10000D; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 10:20:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1644160850; bh=dxn/pASbAG9yAT8IsPw9EWyO2INfcx8RpCP/+m0K7Z8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=SIlYwe/IgYH+9+DuNi9Fc52A8PZ/p7V9DEAsxxBIUaiCJzmGctxn1X3vibZq2e0am x0ZTJkB1F6+gxkz/pXbBwcmsHTGGuuMr95EsLTf4dvkBo5jvKA+GAe/PQ/guxjAfFE wgJ6rdR2heiS7DNPH7k5VdU8Ielxd0LjLZJ2XZEJ/20cZ14Xd/XVp1pMS/nftq7dWS lDW+NWQJBsLQAS85KzzkTCJ38MQkuzvu0in+12CjHBaC4PB1+9nlEAT4LrW3NK4/Mz d+HzHuY1yUbMnzt0ZDPfeoyTb9PBJuHqyL7rrOgd5llrnw7ZQcPX+PofVVzKM5je2r TNmxAdFpYMQ9w== Original-Received: from pastel (76-10-138-212.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.138.212]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79747120480; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 10:20:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87zgn4nsui.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sun, 06 Feb 2022 19:21:25 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285977 Archived-At: > The behaviour in question was never guaranteed. Indeed, Emacs has > already seen many changes in this area to better comply with the > established understanding of which X11 selection to use as the > "clipboard". FWIW, every one of those changes has generated friction, so it's not like we should feel free to change it any way we like. I don't understand the issue at hand well enough to have an opinion on whether the change is on the right side of the tradeoff, but there is clearly a tradeoff. Stefan