From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:48:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <81b620d7-18a6-4c6e-8517-147a411ee882@gutov.dev> <868qyj63o5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <6dc72dec-ddde-45b4-90ce-764e272fb3c5@gutov.dev> <86cynvdmpa.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34898"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Daniel Colascione , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 03 15:49:06 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sP0M5-0008oL-Qw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 15:49:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP0LP-00081l-Gr; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP0LL-00080y-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:48:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP0LI-0007I6-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E09ED80822; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1720014492; bh=XBoT4kCC6x6zQ7871oyRT9viVz/mwo8SVCpZMeDPP98=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=lRWJi3YmVWU+s7VMVT2QkPJ3hpHh9qOFUJLU8+Jh/RD8ipb0XT9pnoCo24iaziAi3 frvDKCg8KDWqa05SMtITmg/Q/SM8oANJL5GApuWREYd32Br/Qql7OLbOMxMGBK8Dpw 6g5Sna/TORwdK4V7J+0ybBgA2f839CQxBsb+PsjkbV+nLK+R12PveunrLgLT/aMf4G Q8nZjJDztCq2wNdUSeviONclS3G7Ux1z2O3Wgd1PmCpwybhm7nZShMDun7ysMC9yAQ N+VBJ54E9w5FN0LCXxrBuefDHi1odPt/4ENYPoFD/PrzNEUfIz5tx9TwursrNs6Gz4 +aX5kl2YEgz5g== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C51BD8001E; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado (modemcable116.38-202-24.mc.videotron.ca [24.202.38.116]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BFC91205FB; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:48:12 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86cynvdmpa.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:24:49 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321254 Archived-At: > ISTR means backward, but this is not as mnemonic as > on an imaginable horizontal line of buffers visited from left to right. I suspect this is L2R-centric. [ Of course, Emacs is very strongly English-centric anyway, so we should probably not worry too much about it. ] Stefan