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Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:38:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86sesb1lfu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 01 Nov 2024 09:07:33 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:294686 Archived-At: > Thanks, but this kind of change cannot be discussed here. Please > start a discussion on emacs-devel, and please include in your I posted something there, but to be honest at this point I don't think discussion is going to be useful. Also, I'm doing this now, i.e. early in the Emacs-31 development cycle, so that we get a chance to get as much feedback as possible before committing to it in a release: the patch is easy to revert since (beside the doc) it's a matter of changing Vlexical_binding = Qt; back to Vlexical_binding = Qnil; > In particular, any objections should be taken very seriously, I'm not sure what that means concretely. > and perhaps some follow-up measures should be included in the > changeset to make the transition smoother and easier. I think we've already done about as much as we could over the past several years. Maybe after installing the patch we will discover new cases which warrant further changes, but I doubt we'll be able to figure that out via discussions on emacs-devel. Stefan