From: Ken Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs users a dying breed?
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:00:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jsacg2$f1m$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bokaw9dh.fsf@nzebook.haselwarter.org>
On 6/23/2012 7:33 AM, Philipp Haselwarter wrote:
> I very much disagree, one of the things emacs is most frequently accused
> of is bloat. ...
> I'd even go as far as claiming that currently there's already too much
> stuff included by default.
Arguments against:
1 - My current emacs lisp directory is about 80 mbytes. Even if it was
stripped to zero, it would hardly affect my disk space.
2 - For professionals, the cost to search the web for one package is far
more than the cost of a 100 gbyte disk.
3 - The risk of installing malware says I want to download software as
infrequently as possible.
IMHO, include every package that's part of the distro. If I don't use
it, it doesn't matter.
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2012-06-18 3:22 ` Emacs users a dying breed? Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-18 9:32 ` djc
2012-06-18 10:25 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-18 17:09 ` Ken Goldman
2012-06-21 15:27 ` rusi
2012-06-22 6:19 ` Tom
2012-06-22 8:45 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-06-22 9:40 ` Tom
2012-06-22 11:07 ` Bastien
2012-06-22 11:16 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-06-24 23:19 ` James Freer
2012-06-25 7:23 ` give emacs --daemon / emacsclient a try (was: Re: Emacs users a dying breed?) Gregor Zattler
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2012-06-25 2:58 ` Emacs for writers (was " rusi
2012-06-25 9:38 ` James Freer
2012-06-26 21:47 ` James Freer
[not found] ` <mailman.3534.1340747277.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-06-27 3:41 ` rusi
2012-06-22 13:13 ` Emacs users a dying breed? Tom
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2012-06-22 14:12 ` Jay Belanger
2012-06-22 15:02 ` Tom
[not found] ` <mailman.3245.1340377350.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-06-22 18:25 ` John Bokma
2012-06-22 11:17 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-06-22 12:03 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-06-22 12:21 ` Richard Riley
2012-06-22 13:04 ` Jonathan Groll
2012-06-23 11:33 ` Philipp Haselwarter
2012-06-23 12:05 ` Teemu Likonen
2012-06-23 12:35 ` Philipp Haselwarter
2012-06-23 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-06-23 13:53 ` S Boucher
2012-06-23 12:37 ` suvayu ali
2012-06-25 19:00 ` Ken Goldman [this message]
2012-06-23 14:02 ` S Boucher
2012-06-22 12:46 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-22 13:27 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-06-22 13:45 ` Doug Lewan
2012-06-22 13:09 ` Tom
2012-07-02 11:36 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2012-06-22 15:08 ` Issues with emacs (was Emacs users a dying breed?) rusi
2012-06-22 15:26 ` Issues with emacs Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-23 2:28 ` rusi
2012-06-23 9:47 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-22 16:41 ` Issues with emacs (was Emacs users a dying breed?) Drew Adams
2012-06-22 18:01 ` Bastien
2012-06-23 20:04 ` Tom
2012-06-24 11:38 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2012-06-24 14:00 ` Drew Adams
2012-06-25 19:23 ` Ludwig, Mark
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2012-06-24 13:52 ` Issues with emacs Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2012-06-23 23:49 ` Dan Espen
2012-06-24 1:24 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-24 2:39 ` ken
2012-06-25 18:02 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2012-06-26 3:03 ` becoming a developer [was: Re: Issues with emacs] ken
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2012-06-26 3:23 ` rusi
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2012-06-27 13:38 ` antoine no
2012-06-27 17:44 ` Aurélien Aptel
2012-06-26 12:29 ` becoming a lisp developer Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-27 15:36 ` ken
2012-06-27 16:12 ` PJ Weisberg
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2012-06-27 16:09 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2012-06-25 18:40 ` Issues with emacs notbob
2012-06-25 19:05 ` Glyn Millington
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2012-06-24 6:39 ` rusi
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2012-06-24 7:55 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-06-24 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-06-24 17:38 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-06-24 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2012-06-24 12:17 ` notbob
2012-06-24 13:24 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-06-24 14:42 ` Yuri Khan
2012-06-24 15:08 ` Gregory Benjamin
2012-06-25 19:26 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-06-24 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-06-25 19:25 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-06-24 13:36 ` Richard Riley
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2012-06-24 10:14 ` Rainer M Krug
2012-06-24 14:18 ` Drew Adams
2012-06-24 15:41 ` Rainer M Krug
2012-06-24 16:07 ` Drew Adams
2012-06-24 16:48 ` Rainer M Krug
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2012-06-24 12:15 ` notbob
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2012-06-25 5:51 ` rusi
2012-06-25 7:45 ` Helmut Eller
2012-06-25 8:57 ` Tom
2012-06-25 21:24 ` Jeremiah Dodds
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2012-06-26 13:29 ` notbob
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2012-06-30 3:51 ` temacs rusi
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2012-06-27 19:57 ` temacs Ken Goldman
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2012-06-26 8:35 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-27 5:54 ` MBR
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2012-06-25 2:43 ` Issues with emacs (was Emacs users a dying breed?) Ugly Sean
2012-06-22 13:15 Emacs users a dying breed? Susan Cragin
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