From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help,gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: emacs-19.34 segfaults when built with Xfree 4.3.0(glibc2.3.x,gcc 3.2) Date: 12 May 2003 14:15:38 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3EBFB256.4000504@yahoo.co.uk> <3EBFC7DE.1000502@yahoo.co.uk> <3EBFDF38.3050201@yahoo.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052763815 30591 80.91.224.249 (12 May 2003 18:23:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: samuel@ma.hw.ac.uk Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 12 20:23:32 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FHvk-0007mf-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 20:21:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHuT-0007sf-04 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 14:20:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHu5-0007rT-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 14:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHqv-00076n-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 14:16:45 -0400 Original-Received: from colo.agora-net.com ([207.245.84.69]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHpu-0006zs-00; Mon, 12 May 2003 14:15:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by colo.agora-net.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19FHpq-0004c2-00; Mon, 12 May 2003 14:15:38 -0400 Original-To: Hin-Tak Leung In-Reply-To: Hin-Tak Leung's message of "Mon, 12 May 2003 18:51:52 +0100" Original-Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Original-cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9614 gmane.emacs.bugs:5029 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:5029 Hin-Tak Leung writes: So far neither you nor "supposedly helpful" samuel had even suggested either gdb or strace. or trying to get a core dump. it looks like you have stumbled upon this debugging approach on your own, in any case, w/o needless prompting. that's good to see! If you want my adaptability, I guess I would like to offer a gdb back trace or something like that eventually, when I get round to do it. Can you help debugging a gdb back trace? (I would really like a straight forward "yes" or "no", rather than going into further philosophical discussions). well i would really like to say "yes" or "no" straight-forwardly rather than having to debug your PR problems first, but all i can offer at this time are these questions: (1) how can anyone definitively answer anything on something you have not yet revealed? (2) what is the root cause of any problem besides philosophical misalignment of some sort? thi