From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9039: 24.0.50; dired "f" fails on directory that begins with a space Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:43:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86ei1yswoi.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86aacmsvvz.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <8dliw6500t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8662nasvis.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310273064 19937 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2011 04:44:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9039@debbugs.gnu.org To: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. 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Schwartz's message of "Sat, 09 Jul 2011 19:46:03 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:44:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48447 Archived-At: Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > How so? I have nothing to set it, and it comes up nil. How is that not > the defaul then? Because it's probed for the first time you actually run dired, to see whether your ls supports --dired. If it does, it gets set to t, if not, to nil. If you do C-h v dired-use-ls-dired this is very obvious: dired-use-ls-dired is a variable defined in `dired.el'. Its value is t Original value was unspecified Documentation: Non-nil means Dired should use "ls --dired". The special value of `unspecified' means to check explicitly, and save the result in this variable. This is performed the first time `dired-insert-directory' is called. > Why isn't GNU Emacs using readdir() and stat() internally? Why is it > depending on an external ls? I don't know. It's a long-standing design decision AFAIK. There certainly has been no change in this regard for several years, since at least Emacs 22.1.