Problems with customized german keyboard

Problems with customized german keyboard

[Tobias Munk]

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In GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i586-suse-linux, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2003-10-03 on D45
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Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

Origin of my problem:
I want to use the left windows key as an alternative Alt-Gr key,
because is's more comfortable on a german keyboard.

Possible with:
xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = ISO_Level3_Shift Multi_key"

Problem:
This works with all programs, exept emacs/xemacs

Procedure to reproduce it (with a german keyboard):
1) typing for example windows_left-"9" BEFORE invoking xmodmap gives
you the error message "S-9 not defined" in the minibuffer.

2) Use xmodmap as described above.

3) Typing windows_left-"9" or Alt-Gr-"9" on a xterm or any editor
exept emacs/xemacs gives you now correctly "]". On emacs/xemacs you
get for BOTH the error message "S-9 not defined", so there is no
possibility any more to get square brackets or any of the other third
key values on a german keyboard.

You get it also on a knoppix 3.4 (xfree 4.3.0, emacs 21.3), but NOT on an
older Suse 7.2 (xfree 4.0.3). So I suppose, there might be some problem
between xfree 4.3.0 end emacs/xemacs?

Yours

Tobias


Recent input:
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
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<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
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<help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu> <report-emacs-b
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Re: Problems with customized german keyboard

[Andreas Schwab]

Tobias Munk <munk@hmi.de> writes:

> Origin of my problem:
> I want to use the left windows key as an alternative Alt-Gr key,
> because is's more comfortable on a german keyboard.
>
> Possible with:
> xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = ISO_Level3_Shift Multi_key"

I think you also need to fix up the modifier maps, since this key is now a
different modifier.

> Problem:
> This works with all programs, exept emacs/xemacs
>
> Procedure to reproduce it (with a german keyboard):
> 1) typing for example windows_left-"9" BEFORE invoking xmodmap gives
> you the error message "S-9 not defined" in the minibuffer.
>
> 2) Use xmodmap as described above.
>
> 3) Typing windows_left-"9" or Alt-Gr-"9" on a xterm or any editor
> exept emacs/xemacs gives you now correctly "]". On emacs/xemacs you
> get for BOTH the error message "S-9 not defined", so there is no
> possibility any more to get square brackets or any of the other third
> key values on a german keyboard.

Did you restart emacs after doing the xmodmap?

Andreas.

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