From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs only provides a dumb TERM Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:08:18 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093641158 19518 80.91.224.253 (27 Aug 2004 21:12:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 23:12:25 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C0o1I-0002EK-00 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:12:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0o5z-0000CF-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0o5s-0000C2-FS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0o5q-0000Aq-CO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0o5q-0000Ae-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.135.220.2] (helo=Cantor.suse.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1C0o0o-0003CT-T4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:11:55 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.suse.de (hermes-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454DBB1CF9E; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:08:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Stefan Monnier X-Yow: I've got an IDEA!! Why don't I STARE at you so HARD, you forget your SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!! In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "20 Aug 2004 18:40:40 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26583 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26583 Stefan Monnier writes: >> A while back I had suggested to do that globally since it never makes = any >> sense for a subprocess to use the TERM setting that Emacs received (si= nce >> subprocesses never have direct access to the terminal in which Emacs i= s >> running, if any). >> At that time I'd been told that it was probably a good idea but that w= e >> should wait for a better time to make the change. >> I think now is a good time for that. > >> So I suggest the patch below. > > Installed. This breaks startup on ttys, term/$TERM.el is no longer loaded. Andreas. --=20 Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de SuSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstra=DFe 5, 90409 N=FCrnberg, Germany Key fingerprint =3D 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."