From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ! in Dired--what was the outcome? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:37:17 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87vfdgezro.fsf@jurta.org> <200410130301.i9D31GM02856@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097772500 12917 80.91.229.6 (14 Oct 2004 16:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Johan Vromans , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 14 18:48:09 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CI8ls-0001Oy-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:48:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CI8sy-00059s-9M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CI8sn-00059k-Bi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:55:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CI8sm-00059P-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:55:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CI8sl-00059E-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.135.220.2] (helo=Cantor.suse.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CI8l1-00030U-Gl; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.suse.de (hermes-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCE5D692F5; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:37:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Miles Bader X-Yow: Everywhere I look I see NEGATIVITY and ASPHALT... In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:56:19 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28391 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28391 Miles Bader writes: > Andreas Schwab writes: >>> For example C-x C-s M-! cp {} {}.save RET before starting to make >>> possibly hazardous changes... >> >> M-x copy-file > > I usually just use `find-alternate-file' (after saving): C-x C-v RET > > Which forces the backup system to start a new backup at that point. And thows away undo information. Just use C-u C-x C-s to force a backup. Andreas. --=20 Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de SuSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstra=DFe 5, 90409 N=FCrnberg, Germany Key fingerprint =3D 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."