C-SPC does not work

C-SPC does not work

[haering-list]

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Hello list,

I got a new PC in my office and switched (the first time for me) to 
Windows 7. I installed the latest ready-to-use Emacs for windows form 
Vincent Goulet (GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)).
Everything works fine except from one function: I can not mark any text. 
C-SPC does not work.
Is there anybody with the same problem or can please somebody give me a 
hint how I can fix the problem.

Thanks a lot.
TIM

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Re: C-SPC does not work

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: haering-list@basf.com
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:55:50 +0100
> 
> Everything works fine except from one function: I can not mark any text. 
> C-SPC does not work.

If you press C-SPC and then "C-h l" (that's the letter ell, not the
digit one), does Emacs show the C-SPC keypress in the buffer it pops
up?

Re: C-SPC does not work

[S Boucher]

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In case you don't already know, you can use C-@ to set mark.  There are times when you just can't get C-<space> to work. C-@ is not as ergonomic, but it works :-)  Saved me back in the days of crappy terminals.




>________________________________
>From: "haering-list@basf.com" <haering-list@basf.com>
>To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:55:50 AM
>Subject: C-SPC does not work
>
>
>Hello list, 
>
>I got a new PC in my office and switched
(the first time for me) to Windows 7. I installed the latest ready-to-use
Emacs for windows form Vincent Goulet (GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)). 
>Everything works fine except from one function:
I can not mark any text. C-SPC does not work. 
>Is there anybody with the same problem or
can please somebody give me a hint how I can fix the problem. 
>
>Thanks a lot. 
>TIM
>
>

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Re: C-SPC does not work

[Jonathan Groll]

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:55:50 +0100, haering-list@basf.com wrote:
> I installed the latest ready-to-use Emacs for windows form Vincent Goulet (GNU
> Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)).
> Everything works fine except from one function: I can not mark any text. C-SPC
> does not work.

I don't know who Vincent Goulet is, is this version the same as the
official pre-compiled GNU Emacs for Windows that can be found at:

http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/

Cheers,
Jonathan
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Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[haering-list]

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Thank you all for your response. To answer your questions:

1. When typing C-SPC and then C-h l Emacs doesn`t show the C-SPC keypress 
in the buffer, but "C-h l"
2. Also C-@ does not work to mark text
3. I also downloaded the newest official windows release from 
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/. But also in this distribution the 
problem is still the same.

Any further comments?
Cheers,
TIM




Von:
Jonathan Groll <lists@groll.co.za>
An:
help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Datum:
17.11.2011 07:57
Betreff:
Re: C-SPC does not work
Gesendet von:
help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org



On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:55:50 +0100, haering-list@basf.com wrote:
> I installed the latest ready-to-use Emacs for windows form Vincent 
Goulet (GNU
> Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)).
> Everything works fine except from one function: I can not mark any text. 
C-SPC
> does not work.

I don't know who Vincent Goulet is, is this version the same as the
official pre-compiled GNU Emacs for Windows that can be found at:

http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/

Cheers,
Jonathan
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Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Jonathan Groll]

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:10:44 +0100, haering-list@basf.com wrote:
> 1. When typing C-SPC and then C-h l Emacs doesn`t show the C-SPC keypress in
> the buffer, but "C-h l"
> 2. Also C-@ does not work to mark text
> 3. I also downloaded the newest official windows release from http://
> ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/. But also in this distribution the problem is
> still the same.
> 
> Any further comments?

Try starting Emacs without any customisations and see if the problem
still exists, for example on my windows machine I would do this as
follows:

C:\Users\JGROLL\Programs\Emacs\emacs-23.2\bin>emacs -q

(The `-q` means it will load neither ~/.emacs or default.el)

Cheers,
Jonathan
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Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[S Boucher]

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I just tried in a Windows 7 Virtual Machine.  I have Emacs 23.2 installed.

I do C-<spc>, and it works.

I do C-<shift>-2 (aka C-@), and it works as well. (On your keyboard, @ might be somewhere other than <shift>-2)


Is your keyboard the same as what Windows think is your keyboard.  I don't think I've ever seen C-@ not working while using emacs.


As a last resort you could:

(global-set-key "C-cm" 'set-mark)



>________________________________
>From: "haering-list@basf.com" <haering-list@basf.com>
>To: lists@groll.co.za
>Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>; help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org
>Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:10:44 AM
>Subject: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work
>
>
>Thank you all for your response. To answer
your questions: 
>
>1. When typing C-SPC and then C-h l
Emacs doesn`t show the C-SPC keypress in the buffer, but "C-h l" 
>2. Also C-@ does not work to mark text 
>3. I also downloaded the newest official
windows release from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/.
But also in this distribution the problem is still the same. 
>
>Any further comments? 
>Cheers, 
>TIM 
>
>
>
>
>Von:  Jonathan Groll <lists@groll.co.za>  
>An:  help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>  
>Datum:  17.11.2011 07:57  
>Betreff:  Re: C-SPC does not work  
>Gesendet von:  help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org 
>>________________________________
> 
>
>
>On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:55:50 +0100, haering-list@basf.com
wrote:
>> I installed the latest ready-to-use Emacs for windows form Vincent
Goulet (GNU
>> Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)).
>> Everything works fine except from one function: I can not mark any
text. C-SPC
>> does not work.
>
>I don't know who Vincent Goulet is, is this version the same as the
>official pre-compiled GNU Emacs for Windows that can be found at:
>
>http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/
>
>Cheers,
>Jonathan
>--
>jjg: Jonathan J. Groll : groll co za
>has_one { :blog => "http://bloggroll.com"
}
>Sent from my computer device which runs on free software
>
> 
>
>
>

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RE: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Ludwig, Mark]

I use Emacs 23.1.1 on a Dell laptop running Windows 7.  Both C-SPC and C-@ work and show up via C-h l (as expected).

(I've had problems with C-SPC in the past, usually because of something like telnet getting in the way, but I've never had trouble with C-@ working....)

HTH,

Mark

From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+ludwig.mark=siemens.com@gnu.org [mailto:help-gnu-emacs-bounces+ludwig.mark=siemens.com@gnu.org] On Behalf Of S Boucher
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:09 AM
To: haering-list@basf.com; lists@groll.co.za
Cc: help-gnu-emacs; help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

I just tried in a Windows 7 Virtual Machine.  I have Emacs 23.2 installed.

I do C-<spc>, and it works.

I do C-<shift>-2 (aka C-@), and it works as well. (On your keyboard, @ might be somewhere other than <shift>-2)

Is your keyboard the same as what Windows think is your keyboard.  I don't think I've ever seen C-@ not working while using emacs.

As a last resort you could:

(global-set-key "C-cm" 'set-mark)

________________________________________
From: "haering-list@basf.com" <haering-list@basf.com>
To: lists@groll.co.za
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>; help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:10:44 AM
Subject: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work
Thank you all for your response. To answer your questions: 

1. When typing C-SPC and then C-h l Emacs doesn`t show the C-SPC keypress in the buffer, but "C-h l" 
2. Also C-@ does not work to mark text 
3. I also downloaded the newest official windows release from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/. But also in this distribution the problem is still the same. 

Any further comments? 
Cheers, 
TIM 


Von: 
Jonathan Groll <lists@groll.co.za> 
An: 
help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 
Datum: 
17.11.2011 07:57 
Betreff: 
Re: C-SPC does not work 
Gesendet von: 
help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org

________________________________________



On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:55:50 +0100, haering-list@basf.com wrote:
> I installed the latest ready-to-use Emacs for windows form Vincent Goulet (GNU
> Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)).
> Everything works fine except from one function: I can not mark any text. C-SPC
> does not work.

I don't know who Vincent Goulet is, is this version the same as the
official pre-compiled GNU Emacs for Windows that can be found at:

http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/

Cheers,
Jonathan
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has_one { :blog => "http://bloggroll.com" }
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Re: C-SPC does not work

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: haering-list@basf.com
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:10:44 +0100
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
> 	help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org
> 
> 1. When typing C-SPC and then C-h l Emacs doesn`t show the C-SPC keypress 
> in the buffer, but "C-h l"

Look in the Control Panel's Keyboard applet (or whatever it's called
in Windows 7): I'm guessing that your customizations of the keyboard
in Windows have something to do with this.

By the way, did you try both left and right Ctrl keys?

Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Kevin Rodgers]

On 11/17/11 1:10 AM, haering-list@basf.com wrote:
> Thank you all for your response. To answer your questions:
>
> 1. When typing C-SPC and then C-h l Emacs doesn`t show the C-SPC keypress in the
> buffer, but "C-h l"
> 2. Also C-@ does not work to mark text
> 3. I also downloaded the newest official windows release from
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/. But also in this distribution the problem
> is still the same.
>
> Any further comments?

M-x replace-operating-system

-- 
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[haering-list]

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>> Any further comments?

>M-x replace-operating-system

:-) 
Very often there are restiction in companies to use windows as OS. And 
therefore I am very happy that I can use GNU software also under windows. 
Even though there are sometimes very curious problems...

TIM

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Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[S Boucher]

>> Any further comments?
>
>>M-x replace-operating-system
> 
>:-)  
>Very often there are restiction in companies to use windows as OS.


M-x change-company

Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 17.11.2011 um 09:10 schrieb haering-list@basf.com:

> Any further comments?

Run GNU Emacs in a functioning virtualisation of a functioning OS! (Or make MS virtual!)

--
Greetings

  Pete

Encryption, n.:
	A powerful algorithmic encoding technique employed in the creation of computer manuals.

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:46:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: S Boucher <stbya@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
> 	"help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org"
> 	<help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org>
> 
> >> Any further comments?
> >
> >>M-x replace-operating-system
> > 
> >:-)  
> >Very often there are restiction in companies to use windows as OS.
> 
> 
> M-x change-company

Why do it piecemeal?  "M-x change-world RET" will do it all in one
swell foop.

Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[S Boucher]

>> Any further comments?
>
>Run GNU Emacs in a functioning virtualisation of a functioning OS! (Or make MS virtual!)


Might not solve the problem.  The VM will just forward host key events of the disfunctional OS to the guest functional OS :-)

Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 18.11.2011 um 22:22 schrieb S Boucher:

>> Run GNU Emacs in a functioning virtualisation of a functioning OS! (Or make MS virtual!)
> 
> 
> Might not solve the problem.  The VM will just forward host key events of the disfunctional OS to the guest functional OS :-)

Yes, therefore my last recommendation, put into parentheses: MS a guest and GNU Emacs an application in a functional OS. R/W access to an NTFS or FAT partition should be available.

--
Greetings

  Pete

"Indentation?! I will show you how to indent when I indent your skull!"

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[David Robinow]

On 11/18/2011 10:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:46:47 -0800 (PST)
>> From: S Boucher<stbya@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
>> 	"help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org"
>> 	<help-gnu-emacs-bounces+haering-list=basf.com@gnu.org>
>>>> Any further comments?
>>>>
>>>> M-x replace-operating-system
>>>>
>>>> :-)  
>>>> Very often there are restiction in companies to use windows as OS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> M-x change-company
>>>>
>>>> Why do it piecemeal?  "M-x change-world RET" will do it all in one
>>>> swell foop.
>>>>
>>>>
The OS bigots are out in full force.  Before anybody gets the wrong 
idea, C-SPC works fine in Windows.
I'm not sure what the OP's problem is, but it's not his choice of 
operating system.

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[S Boucher]

----- Original Message -----

> The OS bigots are out in full force.  Before anybody gets the wrong idea, C-SPC 
> works fine in Windows.

Relax friend.  A few of us have already stated that C-<spc> works on our windoze system.

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: C-SPC does not work

[Jonathan Groll]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:44:52 -0800 (PST), S Boucher <stbya@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The OS bigots are out in full force.  Before anybody gets the wrong
> > idea, C-SPC works fine in Windows.
> 
> Relax friend.  A few of us have already stated that C-<spc> works on our windoze system.

Tim seems to have solved his original problem but for some reason
didn't send it out to the list. Here is what he wrote for anyone else
searching with a similar problem:

----
"Hi Jonathan,

don`t know exactly why, but now it works. When working in Emacs
windows always switched to Chinese as input language automatically.
Now I removed all the different language options except of english and
german - and now it works. So, it might be a windows problem instead
of a emacs problem.

nontheless, thank you very much for your help.

Cheers, TIM"
----

Cheers,
Jonathan
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