From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:35:30 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <1bqkr.13803$mL3.9455@newsfe23.iad> <5Yxkr.15011$bU5.6213@newsfe04.iad> <99231f42-9486-427e-a340-7591223e6c08@u4g2000pbu.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335267671 5506 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2012 11:41:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:41:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 13:41:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMe7I-0003gj-EB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:41:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34708 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMe7G-0007hM-Tt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:41:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54373) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMe6q-0007h3-Fm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMe6I-0005k1-1L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMe6H-0005hJ-Qz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMe6G-0002wR-2e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:40:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:A77C7J5R6ZT4xctUgeMgS+pE470= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84610 Archived-At: rusi writes: > I'll try and restate what Xah is saying in less Xah-ish language. > > Emacs comes from a time when anyone who used a computer knew (about) > programming. > Today everyone uses a computer; so the programmers are the freaks. > > The scratch buffer is meaningful/useful/beautiful for those who can > understand what it signifies that they can (re)program their editor. > > It is a stupid and meaningless irritation to those not so endowed. > Even speaking as a programmer I have to agree. I am surprised anyone disagrees. Anyone clued in enough to emacs to know what *Scratch* is for can create their own easily enough from their .emacs.