From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add function to make frame topmost? Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 00:46:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4BDB5A6E.5060803@harpegolden.net> <4BDBE649.4020307@swipnet.se> <4BDC84FF.8030803@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272754038 9901 80.91.229.12 (1 May 2010 22:47:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 22:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= , Stefan Monnier , Emacs-Devel devel To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 02 00:47:16 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8LSt-0002EH-Jr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 00:47:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42321 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8LSs-0006Mg-MG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 May 2010 18:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O8LSn-0006Lo-Rb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2010 18:47:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51875 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8LSm-0006Km-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2010 18:47:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8LSl-0007kt-5V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2010 18:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.156]:9888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8LSk-0007kn-W7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2010 18:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so643373fga.12 for ; Sat, 01 May 2010 15:47:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X3qBHZxv1XYxFSWUGncSkVSacBep3PFVFki/7UUZKb8=; b=T51VZ8jkcqfpImSJ8bQFwQODfI7DiR3gaIM89LbxtaZuDbfAH1IcWQumXFc3kmeS4E e9sv9OGLEfIdGpaQJMQWQuK07pqtliJOo/b1thqm2Mv+1A1Vitvr2+Imfe93txkvGeyB hBvQcyOwzAxzZzS1YXw2x5PO3VLKBTiqMP9+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nPn6qV15dnPdrKfTH4xMk4WTNAF9m09uXvWn+ATbuDvoM1WVlROHbZNQLTwg32SpHq Fp27MtrHXCH6x5p+/ssUiqVyrSbLji5PyHlv8mkCo8TofS+ZgbiIu1IGSZWqahhysYWg M2vCYSrz5jsrAGTYVOclbLnGyk5b8QIh2kX8k= Original-Received: by 10.239.160.197 with SMTP id e5mr305319hbd.201.1272754026147; Sat, 01 May 2010 15:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.239.164.81 with HTTP; Sat, 1 May 2010 15:46:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BDC84FF.8030803@harpegolden.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124403 Archived-At: On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: >> >> >> Lennart Borgman skrev 2010-05-01 01.22: >> >>> >>> 1) a frame which is topmost. >>> 2) looks like a tooltip frame >>> 3) can show different things >>> 4) can be hidden >>> 5) can be shown without becoming active >>> 6) never becomes the active window >>> 7) looses it topmost property when switching to another app. >>> 8) regains it when switching back > >> 7 and 8 on X must depend on input focus. =C2=A0If emacs looses input foc= us it >> can be considered not active. > > I think 7 and 8 might have been groping towards transient-for, actually. > > Rather than "topmost" lennart might really be looking for is transient-fo= r > (on windows I think called an "owned" window - Yes, you are right. I just tested. For this purpose "owned windows" on w32 seems to fit very good. > Given toplevel windows A and B, B might be transient-for A on x11 > and B might be owned-by A on w32. =C2=A0Then B always appears above > A in the stacking order) > > > > >