From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18141: 24.4.50; saving .gz file breaks file coding Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:03:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9pzjfrwvsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83iom5ptwv.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407369857 31000 80.91.229.3 (7 Aug 2014 00:04:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 00:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18141@debbugs.gnu.org, Vincent Lefevre , yamaoka@jpl.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 07 02:04:09 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBBg-0008MA-TZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 02:04:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBBg-00049h-DM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBBc-00049R-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:04:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBBb-0004Z0-29 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBBa-0004Ys-V2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBBa-0008G3-C7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 00:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18141 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18141-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18141.140736981531709 (code B ref 18141); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 00:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18141) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2014 00:03:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBB9-0008FN-Al for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:03:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44521 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBB6-0008FE-HC for 18141@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:03:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFBB5-0000tg-M7; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:03:31 -0400 X-Spook: SEAL Team 6 Lon Horiuchi industrial intelligence national X-Ran: ,]Z_BrTPo=ZO$[KilF:/\:#N~u92D;MFK`sApaEe|~#R}6peH#7l~z`i>szg4FYCR?hp\. X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <83iom5ptwv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:36:00 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92229 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > situation, and IMO it's perfectly OK for Emacs to leave just the > backup file if it was brutally killed during that time window. I disagre with it being "perfectly ok"; I think it is a real, albeit minor problem. > So I guess X-Symbol is likely also broken now, (Isn't X-Symbol many-years-defunct anyway? No release in a decade AFAICS.) > So I think simply reverting the r111638 changes and leaving bug#13522 > as wontfix is an easier way out. Agreed with the first part, but not with the second part. > An even better fix would be to make the backing up and saving a > transaction-like process. That would solve the problem entirely. But > I'm not sure this is feasible/practical, with parts of the puzzle > implemented in C and parts in Lisp. If it is possible, it will > probably be anything but simple, and so likely inappropriate for the > emacs-24 branch. Sounds right, ie reopen 13522 as minor/wishlist.