From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jari Aalto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RFC: comint.el - comint-highlight-prompt and unreadable colors Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:12:34 +0200 Organization: Private Message-ID: References: <87y7llxxdu.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87slbsyjn7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1174938737 20501 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2007 19:52:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 26 21:52:11 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HVvEg-0000D7-TK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:52:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvGx-0006z0-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:54:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HVhY1-0008LJ-BO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HVhXz-0008Kx-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:15:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVhXz-0008Ku-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.116]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HVhVg-0000A3-14; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:12:48 -0400 Original-Received: from cante.net (a81-197-175-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi [81.197.175.198]) by emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D93E5285; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:12:33 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <87slbsyjn7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Mon\, 26 Mar 2007 08\:43\:08 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:54:28 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:68632 Archived-At: * Mon 2007-03-26 Miles Bader INBOX > Jari Aalto writes: > >> The default color selected is still a problem for completely black >> background. Would there be better alternative to currently used "cyan"? > > Cyan was carefully chosen for use on a black background, and on all the > displays I have, it looks great -- it's close enough in brightness to > the default text color (white) that while it clearly stands out, it > doesn't stand out "too much" (which would make it distracting). > > That is on a display that shows colors directly (X11). > > TTY displays are somewhat more tricky. Unfortunately there is some > variance in the way various terminal emulators render colors (e.g., rxvt > and xterm both use "xterm" as a terminal type, but use different > brightness for some colors). However as far as I've tested, cyan looks > as good as anything on typical terminal emulators. There just aren't > many choices on a typical terminal (I tried "green", it is actually less > visible than cyan on my display using gnome-terminal in xterm/rxvt/etc > emulation modes). Have a look at these: 1) On Windows, terminal Putty, which is very popular free SSH terminal. http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/bug/emacs/m-x-shell-color--win32-putty.jpg 2) On windows, displaying a rxvt terminal back to the Cygwin X11 server from a Unix host using "-bg black -fg snow" http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/bug/emacs/m-x-shell-color--rxvt-cygwin-X11.jpg What if plain 'bold was used instead of cyan? Jari