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From: Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>, Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>
Subject: Prefer UTF-8 over mac-roman? (was: [Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>] charset=macintosh)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:34:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iluu1ef3u19.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)

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The attached message was sent to the Gnus list, but the source of the
problem is Emacs' coding system priorities.  Emacs prefers mac-roman
over utf-8 when decoding the text given below.

I noticed that PROBLEMS in Emacs 21.3 prerelease no longer says that
Unicode support is not complete (which it did in 21.2), so I assume
the Unicode support has been completed, or at least the bugs has been
fixed.

So, shouldn't UTF-8 be preferred over mac-roman in emacs 21.3?
Doesn't even Macintosh use UTF-8 now?

Perhaps it is too late for 21.3, and if so, shouldn't we at least make
this modification to HEAD?  I verified that the same problem still
applies.  (You can reproduce it easily by simply cut'n'pasting the
characters below to a new buffer in a emacs -q and try to save it, if
your mail reader decodes this mail properly.)

(Note that I run emacs in an UTF-8 locale, so this message will be
encoded as UTF-8, even though it contains the same characters as
originally reported.)


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Oort Gnus v0.16
GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2003-03-05 on tux
200 gnu.franken.de InterNetNews server INN 2.3.2 ready

I wrote to attached message using the TeX iput method (C-x RET c TeX RET).
Especially I added these quotes: \ldq \rdq and then \ldots and \euro .

Sending the message, Gnus choose this encoding:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=macintosh
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would have expected UTF-8 since UTF-8 is more standard than
"macintosh"; I know you can set your preferences somehow -- but I'd
like to see Gnus doing the right thing out of the box.


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Subject: encoding test
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:28:35 +0100
Message-ID: <shzno73x30.fsf@tux.gnu.franken.de>

“quotes”
and more…
Grüß Gott.

€ 1.

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ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home):              |
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Free Translation Project:                                |    _-\_<,
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             reply	other threads:[~2003-03-07 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-07 18:34 Karl Eichwalder, Karl Eichwalder [this message]
2003-03-07 18:47 ` Prefer UTF-8 over mac-roman? (was: [Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>] charset=macintosh) Simon Josefsson
2003-03-07 19:09 ` Prefer UTF-8 over mac-roman? Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-18  6:55 ` Prefer UTF-8 over mac-roman? (was: [Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>] charset=macintosh) Kenichi Handa

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