From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Subject: Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:01:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilullxmc45c.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rzq4r4b55xu.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (Dave Love's message of "04 May 2003 12:04:13 +0100")
Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:
> What is this thread all about? I've replied to private mail to
> correct misconceptions, but it seemed to be nothing to do with
> Cyrillic (which I did all the recent work on as far as I know).
The original problem was that saving cyrillic (e.g., from the HELLO
file) as UTF-8 weren't auto-detected as UTF-8 when loading the file
back again. This has been fixed now. Another problem was that Emacs,
when asked to load the file as UTF-8, picked a Unicode font that
didn't include this glyphs. This has not been fixed (although Stephen
seemed to have some ideas). To workaround the problem, users need to
define a fontset, and use it. Doing this is rather user unfriendly (X
resource, or elisp) so I suggested making it possible to customize
fontsets.
My other Cyrillic thread was that (double-width) cyrillic isn't
possible to save as UTF-8 at all. This was fixed by adding a PROBLEMS
entry that says not all of Unicode is supported. While discussing it,
it seems like the real problem was the cut'n'paste behavior that
generated the double-width cyrillic in the first place, so there were
some discussion about making Emacs use UTF8_STRING, when available,
instead of COMPOUND_TEXT.
I hope this summarizes the thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-04 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-25 16:12 Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-25 17:09 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 22:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-26 8:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:25 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28 9:18 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 11:11 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26 16:21 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-26 16:27 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-28 4:38 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-01 8:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02 7:06 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-02 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-03 13:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-03 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-04 13:03 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-04 11:04 ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 12:01 ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2003-05-04 17:13 ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 18:03 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-05 8:47 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 13:44 ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-26 14:10 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-28 22:29 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-29 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-29 14:27 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-30 4:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-30 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-19 0:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19 0:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19 2:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19 13:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-25 16:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26 3:55 ` Implementing charset-aware X font names [was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8] Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-28 11:09 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 12:27 ` Implementing charset-aware X font names Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-05-01 11:13 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:14 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 23:16 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 7:59 ` Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:14 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-01 7:20 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:06 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 18:03 ` Customizing fontsets (was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8) Oliver Scholz
2003-05-02 5:17 ` Customizing fontsets Alex Schroeder
2003-05-02 6:32 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02 13:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-03 0:40 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-03 1:50 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03 12:08 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 1:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03 0:33 ` Oliver Scholz
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