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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Subject: Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:01:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilullxmc45c.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rzq4r4b55xu.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (Dave Love's message of "04 May 2003 12:04:13 +0100")

Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:

> What is this thread all about?  I've replied to private mail to
> correct misconceptions, but it seemed to be nothing to do with
> Cyrillic (which I did all the recent work on as far as I know).

The original problem was that saving cyrillic (e.g., from the HELLO
file) as UTF-8 weren't auto-detected as UTF-8 when loading the file
back again.  This has been fixed now.  Another problem was that Emacs,
when asked to load the file as UTF-8, picked a Unicode font that
didn't include this glyphs.  This has not been fixed (although Stephen
seemed to have some ideas).  To workaround the problem, users need to
define a fontset, and use it.  Doing this is rather user unfriendly (X
resource, or elisp) so I suggested making it possible to customize
fontsets.

My other Cyrillic thread was that (double-width) cyrillic isn't
possible to save as UTF-8 at all.  This was fixed by adding a PROBLEMS
entry that says not all of Unicode is supported.  While discussing it,
it seems like the real problem was the cut'n'paste behavior that
generated the double-width cyrillic in the first place, so there were
some discussion about making Emacs use UTF8_STRING, when available,
instead of COMPOUND_TEXT.

I hope this summarizes the thread.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-04 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-25 16:12 Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-25 17:09   ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 22:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-26  8:11     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:25       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28  9:18         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 11:11           ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26 16:21       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-26 16:27         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-28  4:38       ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-01  8:27         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02  7:06           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-02 21:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-03 13:37               ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-03 19:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-04 13:03               ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-04 11:04           ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 12:01             ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2003-05-04 17:13               ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 18:03                 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-05  8:47             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 13:44     ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-26 14:10       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28 21:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-28 22:29       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-29 13:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-29 14:27           ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-30  4:42             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-30  5:43           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-19  0:40       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19  0:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19  2:31           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19 13:28             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19 13:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-25 16:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26  3:55   ` Implementing charset-aware X font names [was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8] Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-28 11:09     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 12:27       ` Implementing charset-aware X font names Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-05-01 11:13         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:14           ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 23:16             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26  7:59   ` Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:14     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-01  7:20       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:06         ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 18:03         ` Customizing fontsets (was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8) Oliver Scholz
2003-05-02  5:17           ` Customizing fontsets Alex Schroeder
2003-05-02  6:32             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02 13:25               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-03  0:40               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-03  1:50                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03 12:08                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07  1:22                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03  0:33             ` Oliver Scholz

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