From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.ding,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: problem with utf-8 encoding in Gnus Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:21:44 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038522159 21193 80.91.224.249 (28 Nov 2002 22:22:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18HX3N-0005Ve-00 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:22:38 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18HX31-0002ek-00; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:22:15 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:23:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA28280 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:22:45 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 24241 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 2002 22:21:51 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24236 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2002 22:21:51 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 2002 22:21:51 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gASMLi5h013515 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:21:45 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Hashcash: 0:021128:emacs-devel@gnu.org:39701a8006f4fb1a X-Hashcash: 0:021128:ding@gnus.org:8429fca9b36262d8 In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:37:44 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.ding:47946 gmane.emacs.devel:9735 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9735 This came up on the Gnus development list, but I believe it is a generic Emacs problem, so please move the discussion to emacs-devel@gnu.org. The problem is that some fontsets doesn't contain all characters, and that users then will have to change fontset. Generally, I think users want the application (Emacs) to find a better fontset that actually has the character instead, since it seems no single fontset is applicable in all situations. Any chance of getting this supported seamlessly in Emacs? Does the Unicode Emacs branch address this problem in any way? Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, jas@extundo.com wrote: >> Yes. Your fontset doesn't have the characters. The following >> fontset works here: >> >> -Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--18-120-100-100-C-90-ISO10646-1 > > I supposed (wrongly) that the bold variant would have the same > characters as the medium one. I'm using the ucs-fonts package, and > the bold variant (7x14B.bdf) is TARGET1, which is the minimal UCS > range in the ucs-fonts package. I guess I'll switch to a TARGET3 font > like the one you mention or 7x14.bdf when I need to view more of the > UCS range. It seems like all the bold fonts in the ucs-fonts package > are TARGET1. > > Unfortunately, I don't like the look of the normal variants at all > (they are too thin) so I'll have to keep switching back and forth. > I'll ask the maintainer of ucs-fonts about the plans to bring bold > variants up to TARGET3. > > I wonder if Gnus could intelligently switch between a regular and a > Unicode font as needed. I know I can do a manual switch with > shift-Mouse1 as an Emacs function and that's fine, but perhaps Gnus > could be smart about showing messages with characters unavailable in > the current fontset. > > Thanks > Ted