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From: Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs?
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:51:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ikdrtt$87c$1@speranza.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87pqqda3a4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz

On 27/02/2011 10:46 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
> Cthun<cthun_117@qmail.net.au>  writes:
>> But that's not the same thing as software versioning, or anywhere
>> close.
>
> One can still use the same tools nowadays.

You can use a cheese grater to peel potatoes, too. But I wouldn't 
recommend it.

>>> The gestation of both articles and novels is rarely linear.
>>
>> True enough. But it is also not going to fit especially well to what
>> systems designed for software revision control do. There is a single
>> long piece of text
>
> Which can still be separated into chapters if you like, subject to
> reordering and conditional inclusion.

A single C source file contains separate functions.

What's your point?

>> rather than lots of interacting software modules, for one thing; there
>> are no builds or library dependencies or bug reports or feature
>> requests.
>
> Last time I looked, revision control did not concern itself with builds
> or library dependencies or bug reports or feature requests.

Sure it does.

Check out sourceforge sometime. You'll note that the key features 
involve many of these things. They work together as an integrated whole. 
What is the "master branch" but the currently evolving code base, the 
"2.1 branch" but the 2.1 build of the software, etc.?

>> There's also a point where it's actually *finished*,
>
> Uh, you already forgot what I wrote about the various versions of
> articles

No, it's simply not relevant. Articles are typically written, revised, 
and eventually *finished*.

>> while software is never finished and has many successive versions
>> released, each fixing the bugs in the previous and adding new
>> features.
>
> Like a republished polished article.

Articles are not typically published with "bugs" and then later 
republished without them. Typical articles are published once and then 
that's it.

>> In short there's almost nothing of what source code control systems
>> are actually there for. If you want to be able to recover deleted
>> material you use strikethru (and delete anything still in strikethru
>> when it's done) or cut it and save it to a clippings file or
>> something.
>
> Gross.  You are not confusing word processing on a computer with
> handwritten manuscripts by chance?

Of course not. You on the other hand seem to be confusing word 
processing with software development!


  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-27 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-27  8:33 What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature of Emacs? Le Wang
2011-01-27  9:29 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-01-27 12:03 ` Wang Lei
2011-01-27 14:13   ` suvayu ali
2011-01-27 14:12 ` Ken Goldman
2011-01-27 18:11 ` Erik Iverson
     [not found] ` <mailman.0.1296137574.27610.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-27 22:23   ` Joe Fineman
2011-01-28  6:40     ` Jason Rumney
2011-01-28 18:25       ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <mailman.12.1296239161.1176.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-22 14:49         ` Xah Lee
2011-02-22 16:27           ` despen
2011-02-23  3:52             ` Glenn Morris
2011-02-22 19:47           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-23  0:21             ` Xah Lee
2011-02-23  2:06             ` Cthun
2011-02-23  2:33               ` Rafe Kettler
2011-02-23  5:19                 ` Cthun
2011-02-23  7:07                   ` Tim X
2011-02-23 13:28                     ` Keyboarding [Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs?] Xah Lee
2011-02-23 15:39                     ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-02-23 19:50                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-02-23 22:57                       ` Tim X
2011-02-24  0:04                         ` trebol55555
2011-02-24  3:48                         ` Cthun
2011-02-23  9:23                   ` Brendan Halpin
2011-02-23 17:15                   ` Rafe Kettler
2011-02-23 18:33                     ` Ilya Zakharevich
2011-02-23 18:47                       ` Deniz Dogan
2011-02-23 22:08                       ` Cthun
2011-02-23 22:07                     ` Cthun
2011-02-23 23:46                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2011-02-24  3:53                         ` Cthun
2011-02-24  3:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-24  7:06                       ` Leo
2011-02-24 15:58                       ` Richard Riley
2011-02-24 17:20                         ` despen
2011-02-24 14:43                     ` fortunatus
2011-02-24 16:43                       ` Xah Lee
2011-02-24 17:48                         ` Eric Schulte
2011-02-24 18:38                           ` Cthun
2011-02-24 23:14                           ` Xah Lee
2011-02-25  1:44                             ` javax.swing.JSnarker
2011-02-25  7:16                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-25 12:11                               ` rusi
2011-02-25 18:54                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-25 23:19                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-02-26  4:01                                   ` rusi
2011-02-24 18:37                       ` javax.swing.JSnarker
2011-02-24 22:04                       ` Deniz Dogan
2011-02-23  7:16                 ` D Herring
2011-02-23  5:22               ` Tim X
2011-02-23 15:13                 ` Cthun
2011-02-23 18:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-23 19:22                   ` Jason Earl
2011-02-23 22:18                     ` Cthun
2011-02-23 23:54                       ` Jason Earl
2011-02-24  4:05                         ` Cthun
2011-02-24  5:19                   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-24  5:38                     ` Todd Wylie
2011-02-25  2:48                       ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-25 18:43                 ` Jim Janney
2011-02-26  6:05                   ` Cthun
2011-02-26  7:21                     ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-26 20:13                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-27  6:21                       ` Cthun
2011-02-27  8:08                         ` David Kastrup
2011-02-27 15:28                           ` Cthun
2011-02-27 15:46                             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-27 15:51                               ` Cthun [this message]
2011-02-27 17:28                                 ` Julian Bradfield
2011-02-27 19:52                                   ` Cthun
2011-02-27 20:41                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-27 21:02                                       ` Cthun
2011-02-27 20:59                                     ` Robert D. Crawford
2011-02-27 20:58                                   ` Tim Bradshaw
2011-02-27 21:02                                     ` Cthun
2011-02-27 21:12                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-02-27 22:02                                         ` Cthun
2011-02-28  3:51                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-28  9:53                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-28 18:04                                               ` Cthun
2011-02-28 19:03                                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
     [not found]                                                 ` <mailman.2.1298919859.18999.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-28 19:41                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-28 20:04                                                 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01  0:06                                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01  0:14                                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01  0:16                                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01  0:28                                                         ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01  1:49                                                           ` Sean Sieger
2011-03-01  9:27                                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01 13:52                                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:51                                                         ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 23:43                                                           ` Cthun
2011-03-02  8:22                                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-02 14:33                                                               ` Cthun
2011-03-02 21:51                                                                 ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02 22:20                                                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-02 23:54                                                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-03  0:05                                                                       ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-03  0:06                                                                         ` Jason Earl
2011-03-03  0:12                                                                           ` Cthun
2011-03-03 10:04                                                                           ` Marco Antoniotti
2011-03-03 10:21                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-03 13:43                                                                               ` Cthun
2011-03-03 13:42                                                                             ` Cthun
2011-03-02  8:39                                                             ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02 14:35                                                               ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-01 12:57                                                     ` Antony
2011-02-28 18:02                                             ` Cthun
2011-02-27 16:05                             ` Perry Smith
2011-02-27 17:22                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2011-02-27 18:16                                 ` Joe Riel
2011-02-27 23:17                               ` PJ Weisberg
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.8.1298827366.31652.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-28  3:58                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-28  4:37                                   ` rusi
2011-02-28 23:31                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-01  2:43                                       ` rusi
2011-02-28 19:41                                   ` Uday Reddy
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.3.1298822767.31652.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-27 17:11                               ` rusi
2011-02-27 20:52                         ` Tim Bradshaw
2011-02-27 20:59                           ` Cthun
2011-02-27  0:08                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2011-02-27  6:21                       ` Cthun
2011-02-28 11:38                     ` Jim Janney
2011-02-28 12:45                       ` Petter Gustad
2011-02-28 18:11                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01  4:32                         ` Jim Janney
2011-03-01  6:18                           ` rusi
2011-03-01 14:09                             ` Cthun
2011-03-01 14:05                           ` Cthun
2011-03-01 14:21                             ` Mario Lassnig
2011-03-01 15:02                               ` Cthun
2011-03-01 15:06                                 ` rusi
2011-03-01 15:07                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01 15:26                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01 16:43                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-01 21:20                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01 21:24                                         ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 21:33                                           ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:17                                             ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 23:25                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-03-01 15:12                                 ` Mario Lassnig
2011-03-01 21:21                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01 21:23                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02  8:11                                     ` Mario Lassnig
2011-03-02 15:05                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-10 22:56                                     ` Susan Calvin
2011-03-11  0:07                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-01 14:31                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-01 15:06                               ` Cthun
2011-03-01 17:39                             ` Jim Janney
2011-03-01 21:30                               ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:19                                 ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 22:37                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-01 22:47                                     ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-01 23:46                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-02  0:02                                         ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02  1:17                                           ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-02 15:08                                           ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-02  5:52                                         ` Bot Tester
2011-03-02  8:42                                         ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-02 15:10                                           ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-02 15:54                                             ` Bastien
2011-03-04  0:52                                           ` Cthun-bot discussion Peter Keller
2011-03-04  2:43                                             ` Cthun
2011-03-04  5:55                                             ` TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-04 18:00                                               ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Cthun
2011-03-04 21:31                                                 ` Cthun-bot discussion TheFlyingDutchman
2011-03-05  8:39                                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-02  0:36                                 ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Jim Janney
2011-03-02 15:06                                   ` Cthun
2011-03-02 19:52                                     ` Jim Janney
2011-03-02 20:01                                       ` Cthun
2011-03-02  1:00                                 ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature of Emacs? Steve
2011-03-02  5:34                                   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-02-23  7:01               ` What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Alan Mackenzie
2011-02-28 12:42           ` Sean Sieger
     [not found]           ` <mailman.6.1298896994.11648.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-28 14:16             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-28 14:47               ` Sean Sieger

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