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In comp.emacs Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:

> from what i've seen in GNU emacs mailing list, any little suggestion
> about incorporating any UI change into GNU Emacs is met with major
> resistance and debate. Almost everytime, giant fireball blows up in the
> list. I don't know if that's good or bad, for FSF or for the world, but
> that's what i've seen. (both Lennart and Reitter are on the list as
> accepted contributors)

For what it's worth, it's not personal.  A giant fireball blows up when
_anybody_ suggests UI changes in Emacs.  The UI is an important part of
what Emacs is, so it's bound to give rise to discussion when anybody
wants to change it.

> Xah ? http://xahlee.org/

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).