From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cthun Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:19:29 -0500 Organization: Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Message-ID: References: <1578157c-17a0-41ea-9420-9330f68b10fe@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <02a0d2ef-0b00-4038-b559-690516b4ed0a@a21g2000prj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298483906 6469 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2011 17:58:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 23 18:58:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsIyf-00033R-Ov for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:58:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PsIyf-00058m-48 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:58:17 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!news2.euro.net!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1RvcMwzqPkpjk1NpcpiYdQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:185218 comp.emacs:101080 comp.lang.lisp:299827 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:57:18 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:79394 Archived-At: On 22/02/2011 9:33 PM, Rafe Kettler wrote: > On Feb 22, 9:06 pm, Cthun wrote: >> On 22/02/2011 2:47 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >>> There seems to be a contradiction between those last two paragraphs. >>> Saving buffers and finding files are relatively rare operations which >>> thus shouldn't be given very easy to press key sequences like C-s and >>> C-o. >> >> Where do you live where software never crashes and the electricity never >> goes out? Most of us learn to save very frequently to limit how much >> we'll have to do over again if the power goes out or whatever. > > Emacs is really, really stable. My computer hasn't crashed in the past > 6 months, either. The power hasn't gone out in 3 months or so here > (eastern US). > > Save and open are relatively infrequent command relative to others > (actual typing, cursor movement, etc.). Yeah, but for "actual typing" you only need the normal alphanumeric/symbol keys (no ctrl- or alt- combos) and for cursor movement, the arrow/home/end/etc. key group to the right of the main keyboard area. You've got loads and loads of ctrl-letter and ctrl-number combinations still after exhausting all of these more-frequent actions. And then not everyone lives somewhere where the power is that reliable. And then not everyone is daft enough not to fork their file before doing something truly drastic to it, especially large elisions. And then, of course, there's the tendency of operating systems to blue-screen, laptops to overheat and hang, etc. no matter how stable the editor application is.