From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Krzysztof Bieniasz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Open Hypspec with w3m (morphed into keyboards, etc) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <87bp30bzdg.fsf@notengoamigos.org> <87mxmkft81.fsf@notengoamigos.org> <87vd17y70i.fsf@notengoamigos.org> <87r5bvb9u1.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> <616b227c-746c-4010-a1e1-a91c52bf6143@m27g2000prj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296405658 6300 80.91.229.12 (30 Jan 2011 16:40:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:40:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 30 17:40:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PjaKa-00017I-PQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:40:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58276 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PjaKa-0006FQ-8n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:40:52 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 14 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: eQhurXfNvHLWPQA1P/RUiQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:184702 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:78856 Archived-At: > I think they roughly match up. Moving left from the space bar, on the > Mac, you have the "command" key, then the "alt / option" key, then the > control key, and then another key sometimes called control and other > times called "fn" on the laptop's keyboard. Mac's "option/alt" key is in the place of PC's "windows" key while the "command" key (the one with an apple) is in the place of PC's alt key. To further confuse things the "windows" key is only on the left while symmetrically on the right we have the "menu" key. And the right Alt is in fact an "AltGr" which is a different modifier then the left Alt. Furthermore some keyboards (especially on laptops) have a "Fn" modifier for hardware operations, which is placed only on the left, between the "control" and "windows". So obviously your Alt and my "windows" are the same key, only they have different names.