* bug#64714: 29.0.92; Gently recommend some keybindings for Eglot in the manual
@ 2023-07-18 17:06 Spencer Baugh
2023-07-18 17:30 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Spencer Baugh @ 2023-07-18 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 64714; +Cc: João Távora
Eglot does not binding any keys by default, because it goes through
normal Emacs functionality. OK, that's reasonable and good. However
there are a few things which it would be nice to have keybindings for:
- M-x eglot (i.e. starting eglot)
- eglot-code-actions and eglot-code-action-*
- eglot-rename
- eglot-format-*
I'm not saying we need to come up with permanent default bindings for
these now. But it would be nice to have some vague hint in the
documentation about what bindings users should use, and we can try a
little bit to match those bindings when we eventually pick something.
At the very least this will mean eglot users will mostly have the same
bindings configured as each other, and if we're lucky we might
eventually be able to standardize some of these bindings.
And in particular, at my site we're starting to deploy eglot, and I am
afraid of picking bindings for these things because I don't want to
later change them on my users once upstream Emacs adds some. But at the
same time I have users who like having keybindings for every single
command, for better or for worse, and I don't want to tell them to come
up with their own bindings which are different from everyone else.
Maybe we could gently identify some bindings that might be good for
these commands? C-c , is a nice unused prefix (picked arbitrarily),
maybe bindings under that? Then we can document that people can
configure those bindings themselves. We can always change our minds
later, but at least eglot users will mostly agree between themselves.
Also: can we make a preliminary decision whether people should be using
eglot-ensure or should be manually running M-x eglot in each new file?
Because if it's the latter, I think we should also have a binding for
`eglot' eventually. It would be cute if C-c , on its globally ran
eglot, then eglot-mode-map shadowed C-c , with the prefix bindings, I
think that would be pretty intuitive.
(There's also eglot-find-typeDefinition and eglot-find-implementation,
but those we probably want to do through xref, sooner or later, so
they'll show up with M-. or something.)
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* bug#64714: 29.0.92; Gently recommend some keybindings for Eglot in the manual
2023-07-18 17:06 bug#64714: 29.0.92; Gently recommend some keybindings for Eglot in the manual Spencer Baugh
@ 2023-07-18 17:30 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-18 17:49 ` Robert Pluim
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-07-18 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Spencer Baugh; +Cc: 64714, João Távora
> C-c , is a nice unused prefix (picked arbitrarily)
A plus is that ‘C-c ,’ doesn't conflict with ‘C-c .’ in EDE.
Or maybe they are not used at the same time because Eglot
supersedes EDE? Then ‘C-c .’ could be considered as well.
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* bug#64714: 29.0.92; Gently recommend some keybindings for Eglot in the manual
2023-07-18 17:30 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2023-07-18 17:49 ` Robert Pluim
2023-07-18 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2023-07-18 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: Spencer Baugh, João Távora, 64714
>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:30:25 +0300, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> said:
>> C-c , is a nice unused prefix (picked arbitrarily)
Juri> A plus is that ‘C-c ,’ doesn't conflict with ‘C-c .’ in EDE.
Juri> Or maybe they are not used at the same time because Eglot
Juri> supersedes EDE? Then ‘C-c .’ could be considered as well.
Tell me you donʼt use org without telling me you donʼt use org :-)
C-c , runs the command org-priority (found in org-mode-map), which is
an interactive byte-compiled Lisp function in `org.el'.
Although to be fair, org files and files where you enable eglot are
highly unlikely to overlap.
Robert
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* bug#64714: 29.0.92; Gently recommend some keybindings for Eglot in the manual
2023-07-18 17:49 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2023-07-18 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-07-18 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Spencer Baugh, João Távora, 64714
> >> C-c , is a nice unused prefix (picked arbitrarily)
> Juri> A plus is that ‘C-c ,’ doesn't conflict with ‘C-c .’ in EDE.
> Juri> Or maybe they are not used at the same time because Eglot
> Juri> supersedes EDE? Then ‘C-c .’ could be considered as well.
>
> Tell me you donʼt use org without telling me you donʼt use org :-)
>
> C-c , runs the command org-priority (found in org-mode-map), which is
> an interactive byte-compiled Lisp function in `org.el'.
>
> Although to be fair, org files and files where you enable eglot are
> highly unlikely to overlap.
I use Org, but didn't expect a prospect of enabling Eglot in Org.
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