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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: vterm and Meta?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 15:56:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iermsz799xp.fsf@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: feba41f72a303813f697227060a3bd1ec1a11d58.camel@adminart.net

hw <hw@adminart.net> writes:

> On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 11:05 -0400, Spencer Baugh wrote:
>> hw <hw@adminart.net> writes:
>> > On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 14:12 +0200, Thibaut Verron wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > 
>> > > Are you using emacs in a terminal?
>> > 
>> > sometimes
>> > 
>> > > If not, Meta is usually bound to a modifier key (afaik by default the 
>> > > one immediately left of the space bar, e.g. alt on PC keyboards), and 
>> > > that works in vterm.
>> > 
>> > Uhm, I've been using emacs for over 30 years and in all these years,
>> > the ESC key was always used for a meta key across all instances by
>> > default.  It's the same when running emacs in a terminal, as an X11
>> > client or with wayland.
>> > 
>> > The key left of the space bar has always been the Alt key on all PC
>> > keyboards I've used so far.  Pressing, for example, Alt-x, inserts x
>> > into the buffer (like into this buffer I'm writing this reply in, and
>> > into the vterm buffer).
>> > 
>> > How is it that it's different for you?
>> > 
>> > > If you don't usually run programs using the Esc key in vterm, you can 
>> > > unbind it and send it with vterm-send-next-key when necessary.
>> > 
>> > Hm, true, I can try that.  It's not like I need the ESC key too often
>> > in a terminal.  Somehow I didn't think of that, thank you :)
>> > 
>> > But then, maybe it makes sense to reconfigure things to use the Alt
>> > key instead of ESC?  Apparently Alt doesn't do anything now and may be
>> > less awkward to type.  Hmm ...
>> 
>> It's possible to separate these in graphical frames.  I think you could
>> 
>> (define-key local-function-key-map (kbd "<escape>") nil)
>> 
>> to make <escape> no longer map to ESC.  Then you can remove the ESC
>> binding in vterm and add an <escape> binding.  Then Meta bindings and
>> <escape> will be separate.
>> 
>> (I know this because I figured it out for some evil-mode users and wrote
>> it up here: https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil/issues/1780 )
>
> Cool, only when I disable the only Meta key I have, I won't have a
> Meta key at all, would I?  I'd have to somehow configure some of the
> Alt keys as Meta first.

No.  Alt will still be translated to send ESC, so it will still work as
Meta.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-03 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-01 11:55 vterm and Meta? hw
2023-08-01 12:12 ` Thibaut Verron
2023-08-01 14:21   ` hw
2023-08-01 14:40     ` how to configure Meta key with wayland (was: vterm and Meta?) hw
2023-08-01 15:05     ` vterm and Meta? Spencer Baugh
2023-08-01 16:36       ` hw
2023-08-03 19:56         ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2023-08-01 15:09     ` Thibaut Verron
2023-08-01 16:25       ` hw
2023-08-01 19:54         ` Thibaut Verron
2023-08-02  0:39           ` hw
2023-08-02  7:54             ` Thibaut Verron
2023-08-02 14:21               ` hw
2023-08-02 14:29                 ` hw
2023-08-02 15:10                   ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-03 14:02                     ` hw
2023-08-03 19:46                     ` tpeplt
2023-08-03 21:32                       ` hw
2023-08-03 22:29                         ` tpeplt
2023-08-04 20:08                           ` hw
2023-08-04 21:20                             ` PierGianLuca
2023-08-06 16:32                               ` hw
2023-08-06 17:09                                 ` PierGianLuca
2023-08-06 17:39                                 ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-04 21:42                             ` tpeplt
2023-08-06 19:41                               ` hw
2023-08-06 19:54                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-02 15:05                 ` Thibaut Verron
2023-08-03 13:50                   ` hw
2023-08-01 19:01 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2023-08-02  0:45   ` hw
2023-08-02  9:02     ` Akib Azmain Turja
2023-08-02 18:01       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-03 14:15       ` hw
2023-08-03 18:49         ` Akib Azmain Turja
2023-08-04 20:30           ` hw

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