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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A UI approach for making synchronous commands asynchronous
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 10:09:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ier5y5yc0s5.fsf@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ierjzumtrt0.fsf@janestreet.com

Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> writes:
> Commands supporting this feature could start out with a blocking UI.
> When such a command is run, Emacs just blocks and doesn't respond to
> user input.  The user can wait for as long as they like, and can
> interrupt it with C-g.  This is how things are today.
>
> The new feature is that if they get annoyed with how long a command is
> taking, they can hit C-M-z to make the command "go into the background":
> convert to some kind of non-blocking UI, like displaying a buffer with
> progress or messaging when the task is done, as appropriate for the
> individual command.

vc operations in particular would benefit this approach is vc
operations.  In particular, see bug#21969

That bug happened after vc-diff was made async: now diffs would pop up a
window which asynchronously would have the diff inserted into it.  But a
user complained that this was a worse user experience when the diff was
both empty and fast to generate: in that case, simply synchronously
running the diff and messaging "No diff" is nicer.

So the command was made async, but then reverted to sync because of UI
issues.

So as I said elsewhere, in bug#21969 the asynchronous implementation
*already* exists.  What was missing was a good user experience for the
asynchronous implementation.

I think my "backgrounding" approach would be a perfect solution to this:
start out blocking the UI waiting for the diff, but let the user hit a
key to "background" it, to immediately create the window which will
receive the diff asynchronously.  That works great both in fast and slow
diff-generation scenarios.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-01 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-26 19:07 A UI approach for making synchronous commands asynchronous Spencer Baugh
2023-07-27  5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27 14:22   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-27 15:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27 15:32       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-27 17:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27 18:22           ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-27 19:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28  4:32               ` tomas
2023-07-28  6:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-01 14:09 ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2023-08-01 16:53   ` Helmut Eller
2023-08-01 17:11     ` Eli Zaretskii

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