Re: XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs?

[Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > Isn't that the Box attribute applicable to all Emacs face, not just
>> > mode-line?
>> 
>> It might be if I could figure out the syntax for set-face-attribute...
>
> You don't need to.
>
> M-x customize-face RET mode-line RET
>
> Look at and play with `Box around text', in particular its `Style' and `Width'
> settings when value `Box' is used.  `Width' is what gives you a greater or
> smaller 3D effect.
>
> Customize shows you the effect of your changes as soon as you choose `State' >
> `Set for current session'.  Fiddle and set, fiddle and set.
>
> Much easier than trying to parse the `set-face-attribute' doc or code and then
> experiment with Lisp sexps.  And if you then want to see what the corresponding
> Lisp looks like for the option value, choose `State' > `Show Lisp Expression'.
>
> IMHO, too many people think that not using Customize somehow makes them heavy
> Lispers, and that using Customize somehow makes them Emacs wimps or newbies.
>
> This not to argue that the Customize UI is wonderful or particularly appealing
> (ugh!).  The point is that it is your friend, and a wise Lisper takes advantage
> of it.

My problem with customize is finding what I want.
Given customize-face then mode-line I'm good.
Starting thru the menubar, I get totally lost.

Anyway, Emacs wins again!

Emacs is now sporting XEmacs style 3d mode lines and life is good.

Not sure if I'll apply this to inactive mode lines, maybe they should be
sunken or just flat like they are by default.

Thanks!

-- 
Dan Espen