* Re: Porting emacs
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@ 2011-02-19 23:23 ` despen
2011-02-19 23:27 ` despen
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From: despen @ 2011-02-19 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Boris Moskalev <BMoskalev@rocketsoftware.com> writes:
> Hello
>
> I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding.
> Could you help me for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I just have to add codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
Looks like someone beat you to it.
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/unix/tools/
I'm pretty sure the best way to go is leave the code in ASCII.
There's little about z/OS that requires EBCDIC.
You would of course want to edit EBCDIC datasets but that's
more a matter of translating the data.
I haven't looked at the port I don't know if someone has done that
or not.
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* Re: Porting emacs
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2011-02-19 23:23 ` Porting emacs despen
@ 2011-02-19 23:27 ` despen
2011-02-20 13:15 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
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From: despen @ 2011-02-19 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Boris Moskalev <BMoskalev@rocketsoftware.com> writes:
> Hello
>
> I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem
> with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding. Could you help me
> for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I just have to add
> codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
I should add that I do mainframe work all day on a Linux PC using Emacs.
I never had a desire to run the editor on z/OS, I think you're going
to see performance issues.
A better plan is to develop a set of tools for moving data, submitting
compiles, run TSO commands, do compiles, etc.
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* Re: Porting emacs
2011-02-19 23:27 ` despen
@ 2011-02-20 13:15 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
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From: Oleksandr Gavenko @ 2011-02-20 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 2011-02-19 23:27, despen@verizon.net wrote:
> Boris Moskalev<BMoskalev@rocketsoftware.com> writes:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem
>> with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding. Could you help me
>> for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I just have to add
>> codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
>
> I should add that I do mainframe work all day on a Linux PC using Emacs.
> I never had a desire to run the editor on z/OS, I think you're going
> to see performance issues.
>
Yes this is may be best choice. Emacs comes with TRAMP mode
which allow connect to remote machine via SSH and make
editing on Linux/Windows host and all other job (as compilation,
testing) on mainframe.
--
Best regards!
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* Re: Porting emacs
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@ 2011-02-20 15:56 ` despen
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From: despen @ 2011-02-20 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa@gmail.com> writes:
> On 2011-02-19 23:27, despen@verizon.net wrote:
>> Boris Moskalev<BMoskalev@rocketsoftware.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem
>>> with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding. Could you help me
>>> for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I just have to add
>>> codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
>>
>> I should add that I do mainframe work all day on a Linux PC using Emacs.
>> I never had a desire to run the editor on z/OS, I think you're going
>> to see performance issues.
>>
> Yes this is may be best choice. Emacs comes with TRAMP mode
> which allow connect to remote machine via SSH and make
> editing on Linux/Windows host and all other job (as compilation,
> testing) on mainframe.
I haven't had much success with Emacs directly accessing mainframe
files. scp returns various errors.
z/OS can mount UNIX files with NFS but I haven't tried that either.
Instead I just ftp files back and forth. At first I thought that
might be a little slow but moving source files and listings back
and forth is pretty much instantaneous.
Other hints:
Use a .netrc
Write commands in Perl. Perl pipes to FTP are much easier
than C or shell.
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* Porting emacs
@ 2011-02-18 12:15 Boris Moskalev
2011-02-20 13:10 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
2011-02-20 13:31 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
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From: Boris Moskalev @ 2011-02-18 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello
I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding.
Could you help me for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I just have to add codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
Thanks
Boris Moskalev
C/C++ Developer
Rocket Software, Inc.
3 Zhukovskiy Street * Miass, Chelyabinsk region 456318 * Russia
Tel: +7.3512.471.471 * Fax: +7.3512.471.470 * Mobile: +7.902.89.27.556
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* Re: Porting emacs
2011-02-18 12:15 Boris Moskalev
@ 2011-02-20 13:10 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
2011-02-20 13:31 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
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From: Oleksandr Gavenko @ 2011-02-20 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 2011-02-18 12:15, Boris Moskalev wrote:
> Hello
> I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem
> with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding.
> Could you help me for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I
> just have to add codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
>
How about check (written Emacs version 19.34):
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/unix/library/IBM+Redbooks/index.html#emacs
If I proper remember when we port cryptographic lib to z/OS
we only convert source (ANSI C) encoding from ASCII to EBCDIC
to compile sources with XL compiler for z/OS.
There are exist GCC for this platform, but we have trouble
with it (static library from GCC binary incompatible with XL
but I don't remember how).
Ask more specific questions.
--
Best regards!
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* Re: Porting emacs
2011-02-18 12:15 Boris Moskalev
2011-02-20 13:10 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
@ 2011-02-20 13:31 ` Oleksandr Gavenko
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From: Oleksandr Gavenko @ 2011-02-20 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 2011-02-18 12:15, Boris Moskalev wrote:
> Hello
> I'm trying to porting emacs to z/OS now. And now I have some problem
> with porting due there is using EBCDIC encoding.
> Could you help me for that problem. May be exist simple answer and I
> just have to add codes of EBCDIC somewhere.
I look at 'sg245944.pdf' (google it). In chapter 11 exist command to
build Emacs version 19.34:
$ export $A2E=”-o from=ISO8859-1,to=IBM-1047"
$ mkdir emacs
$ cd emacs
$ pax -rf /u/egont/emacs-19_34_os390_tar.Z $A2E
$ export INSTALLDIR=’/usr/local’
$ ./configure i390-ibm-omvs --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=no \
--prefix=$INSTALLDIR
$ make install
Quoter from "11.6 Porting emacs to OS/390":
This version of emacs has been ported by MKS
Software in cooperation with IBM. We don’t have
any information about what has been changed and
how difficult it was to port the package to
OS/390. We are also not aware if MKS will port
future releases or if the changes will be
integrated into the mainline of the code. Please
report your successful installation or any kind of
problems to MKS to make them aware that emacs is
used on this platform.
--
Best regards!
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