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From: Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sanest way to make emacs behave on a Solaris OS
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:41:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ica9kv1za5.fsf@home.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2567.1375733090.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> writes:

> Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> Bob Proulx writes:
>> > Use of .Xdefaults is rather superseded by the .Xresources file.
>> > The difference between the two is subtle.  But .Xresources tends
>> > to be preferred because of the way that it is applied.  The
>> > .Xresources is applied to the $DISPLAY through xrdb.  The
>> > .Xdefaults is applied through the presence in the $HOME
>> > directory, but only if the xrdb is empty.  So once you have a
>> > .Xresources the .Xdefaults is no longer used.
>> 
>> That's interesting. On my school's Solaris/SunOS, in my home
>> directory, there wasn't any .Xresources to begin with, but there
>> was an .Xdefaults. It would have been interesting to examine the
>> the contents of that file, but I was so eager to try the
>> .Xresources solution that I just deleted the .Xdefaults, to be
>> sure it didn't influence in any way. And now, you're saying that
>> was unnecessary, because it is only applied if there isn't a
>> populated xrdb/.Xresources. You live, you learn.
>
> The difference is a little subtle if you are not in a situation to
> notice how they are different from each other.  Let me give an
> example.
>
> You and I are both working on a server machine for some task using a
> shared login.  (Let's not debate the shared login aspect.  Much of
> this was set up decades ago.  At one time on local private friendly
> networks that was very commonly done.  And this also applies to a
> single user with different device displays too.)
>
> You log into the machine and either tunnel X with ssh -X or you set
> DISPLAY and allow it to forward raw to your desktop display.  I do the
> same.  Say that I like white on black text and you like black on white
> text.  However this could be any given customization.  It is only
> important that we like different things.  We both start up the same
> graphics application for the purposes of the shared task.
>
> An alternative difference could be that you are working on a very
> large widescreen monitor and want to set sizes, fonts, dpi, to match
> your large screen.  I am working off of a 7 inch tablet and wish to
> set sizes, fonts, dpi, to match my more limited work space.  Just for
> another example.

Shared logins?  Makes no sense to me.
Where is the security in that.



Anyway, since you brought up dealing with different monitor sizes
here's how I deal with rxvt on different terminal sizes using
xrdb and X-resources:

#if ( HEIGHT == 900 )     /* Traditional Sparc */
Rxvt.geometry: 80x55
#elif ( HEIGHT == 1024 )  /* Sparc 21 inch */
Rxvt.geometry: 80x65
#elif ( HEIGHT == 768 )   /* Exceed in 1024x768 mode */
Rxvt.geometry: 80x47
#else                     /* I have no idea... */
Rxvt.geometry: 80x40
#endif

The man page reveals other values you can access besides HEIGHT.

Another person mentioned running xrdb and reading an .Xdefaults file.
A common problem with .Xdefaults is that it can rapidly accumulate
huge amounts of junk.

Here's how I deal with that in my .xinitrc:

  cat $HOME/xdef/*.ad | xrdb -load

The xdef directory contains:

Emacs.ad
exmh.ad
xterm.ad
etc.

Makes it easy to remove things you no longer use.

-- 
Dan Espen


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-05 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.2072.1375151019.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-30  2:32 ` Sanest way to make emacs behave on a Solaris OS Dan Espen
2013-07-29 18:18   ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2176.1375205273.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-30 18:00     ` Dan Espen
2013-07-30 18:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-31  3:23   ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2199.1375241187.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-31 17:55     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-31 18:26       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-02 12:48       ` Harry Putnam
2013-08-03  7:03         ` Bob Proulx
2013-08-05  2:32           ` Harry Putnam
2013-08-05  2:51             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2500.1375671147.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05  7:59               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 13:43                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-04  5:32                   ` Harry Putnam
2013-08-05 22:40                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-04 10:35                       ` Harry Putnam
2013-08-06  5:49                         ` Bob Proulx
2013-08-06 12:52                       ` Harry Putnam
2013-08-06 13:09                         ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.2603.1375794577.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-06 21:33                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 13:55                 ` Dan Espen
2013-08-05 20:16             ` Bob Proulx
2013-08-04 10:10               ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2580.1375742208.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 22:47                 ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2569.1375733828.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 22:04               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 22:29                 ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.2579.1375741786.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 22:44                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2498.1375670121.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05  7:58             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 14:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2536.1375714107.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 15:32                 ` Dan Espen
2013-08-05 16:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-05 18:03                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 18:51                     ` Dan Espen
2013-08-05 17:51                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 18:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-05 19:25                     ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2559.1375730782.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 22:23                       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.2552.1375727048.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 18:25                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 19:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2419.1375513430.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-03 10:42           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 20:04             ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2567.1375733090.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-05 21:53               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 23:21               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-05 23:41               ` Dan Espen [this message]
2013-08-06  5:54                 ` Bob Proulx
2013-08-06 21:15                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-07  0:38                   ` Dan Espen
2013-08-07 12:06                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-08 15:36                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-07  0:22                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-08 15:43                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-08 18:08                   ` Dan Espen
2013-08-08 20:19                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2372.1375447876.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-02 18:34         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-02 13:02   ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2374.1375448728.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-02 18:39     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-02 19:12       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-02 18:52     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-02 19:32       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-30  2:20 Harry Putnam

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