From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Espen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: I wish list-buffers used my current window when it listed my buffers Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:14:57 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <0F190770-005F-4DEA-BE5F-4E235FC6BAD9@gmail.com> <00FA1084-C039-4E70-A3D1-BDF18EEB5D17@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376694915 32590 80.91.229.3 (16 Aug 2013 23:15:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 23:15:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 17 01:15:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VATEi-00010K-1o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 01:15:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33482 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VATEh-0006YU-IJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:15:15 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 45 Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="2b4d99857b7659717d3b28a24c766d4c"; logging-data="6740"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19b9ZIiHVFS2HjfdDFXF2hae7+oaLzRnCQ=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vD0/uzhwxGEWxGeMwNinIM8b73w= sha1:OBcy8WlmcRycGoiTmr2znODql1c= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200676 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92943 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: > Jay Cotton wrote: >> Dan Espen wrote: >> > I still think any tweaking of list-buffers is a waste of time. >> > Just replace it with the electric version. >> >> I hate to pick nits with the guy who seems closest to my POV on this >> issue, but after using the electric version a little bit I did >> notice some weirdness. >> >> For instance, it clobbers C-x and a bunch of other huge >> keybindings. I can't select text for the kill ring. I can't isearch >> for the buffer I'm looking for. > > Those are annoying deficiencies. Not enough to turn me off to it. > But definitely annoying that the interface isn't consistent with other > parts of emacs. Maybe it would be possible to fix those things. > > I have other things about electric-buffer-mode that annoy me. It has > nasty highlighting that I disable. The latest version uses an ugly > character set that I don't like but haven't been able to disable. Interesting. Of course I don't use buffer-list so I was unaware of any issues. I don't have any issues with the highlighting which I've customized to suit myself or the fonts (which are identical to all my other fonts). >> I love the fact that it opens in the same window, but I can imagine >> the dev group catching a lot of flak if they replaced the >> 'list-buffers default with something so different as this. > > I only wish that they would get in trouble for breaking long standing > behavior! Every time a I upgrade to a new release of emacs I spend a > lot of time fixing things back to the way they were before. They > definitely don't seem to be holding back on changing major behaviors. Maybe something in the customize system to choose would be a suitable compromise. Best would be to have one be a compatible super set of the other so one could be dispensed with. -- Dan Espen