From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Espen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: a key system to replace gnu emacs's 1000 default keybindings Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 15:10:07 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <5ee2582c-026b-4ab3-b5a7-c2d3e66ff511@oe8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <4d8a8454-22d9-44a3-9f57-7d5791534d30@t2g2000pbl.googlegroups.com> <4FC00690.9090200@thadlabs.com> <7db350db-3809-4ba1-97cd-c4b97357cd4c@pr7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338059713 2136 80.91.229.3 (26 May 2012 19:15:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:15:13 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 26 21:15:12 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMSF-0004Yr-Th for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 21:15:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43114 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMSF-0000I0-GC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:15:11 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 43 Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="eEvqGQsJJYL9/mBIdBpRPw"; logging-data="3522"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/jV8dhskSRLfDhtLxcQjvukPJ7BEn5cx8=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZDheCicAG4Ga+7eLHUjU5oETlQc= sha1:sDqb2IfxwErdv1iJ5GI1X6Ae2uM= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:192595 comp.emacs:102482 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85001 Archived-At: Xah Lee writes: > On May 26, 8:57 am, Dan Espen wrote: >> Perhaps you should read more carefully. >> >> Thad remapped Caps Lock to ANOTHER Ctrl. >> He didn't SWAP anything. > > that doesn't matter. Those who use capslock for Ctrl basically only > use that single key for Ctrl. > > 〈Emacs: Why You Should Not Swap {Caps Lock, Control} Keys〉 > http://xahlee.org/emacs/swap_CapsLock_Ctrl.html > > if you consider Capslock key useless, you can given it another > function. I've been using it as a modifier to insert unicode (e.g. APL > keyboard), or as emacs's M-x. Currently, it does emacs's mark. Still > experimental. > >> When I want all uppercase, >> Emacs is fully capable of uppercasing as much typing as I need. > > vast majority of people are not using emacs. > >> I don't need or want a Caps Lock key anywhere on my keyboard. >> >> You'll need to create another write up that explains why >> we can't live without CAPS LOCK. > > Thanks for asking. > > I think the Caplock key should be eliminated, together with {Pause/ > Break, Insert}. Though other problems of standard PC keyboard are more > critical for change. Detail: Sounds like we all agree then, ban the CAPS LOCK key. Pause works well for me. (I toggle pause on the music player.) Break is my default undo key. (Seems logical.) Insert? Toggle overwrite mode seems useful enough. -- Dan Espen