From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:26:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281048896 14679 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 22:54:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 22:54:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 00:54:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh9Kv-0003RH-LK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:54:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh8u5-0003vz-Fg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:27:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55024 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh8kN-00068h-7s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh7xq-0000Yh-W2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44463) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh7xq-0000YZ-LG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh7xn-0008DC-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:26:55 +0200 Original-Received: from cpc10-harb6-0-0-cust112.perr.cable.virginmedia.com ([92.232.137.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:26:55 +0200 Original-Received: from u.s.reddy by cpc10-harb6-0-0-cust112.perr.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:26:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc10-harb6-0-0-cust112.perr.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 In-Reply-To: <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128326 Archived-At: On 8/5/2010 9:33 PM, Óscar Fuentes wrote: >> I can momentarily depress Alt to activate the menubar. > > Nope. Have you some setting in .emacs for that? It doesn't work with > emacs -Q (nor I'll appreciate that behavior.) Good guess! I was wondering the whole afternoon. Setting w32-pass-alt-to-system to t does the trick. The manual says: Emacs compiled as a native Windows application normally turns off the Windows feature that tapping the key invokes the Windows menu. The reason is that the serves as in Emacs. When using Emacs, users often press the key temporarily and then change their minds; if this has the effect of bringing up the Windows menu, it alters the meaning of subsequent commands. Many users find this frustrating. You can re-enable Windows' default handling of tapping the key by setting w32-pass-alt-to-system to a non-nil value. ---- The first paragraph is a bit misleading. But, more mysteriously there is no doc-string for this variable. So, it is quite hidden. I will file a bug report. Cheers, Uday