From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: francogrex Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C interpreter in Lisp/scheme/python Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:10:16 +0200 Organization: Private Message-ID: References: <9969f3c0-73e3-48e8-b4df-734c64bd00c0@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> <16a7e301-2e85-47eb-971e-79acc4e076a6@b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291947409 13806 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 02:16:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 02:16:49 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 03:16:45 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQsXN-0008Fn-2j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 03:16:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59704 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQsXM-0003FE-89 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:16:44 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help, comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.scheme, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.python Original-Lines: 38 Injection-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3DEBbscR8oSBw7WsXZ+3Jg"; logging-data="19044"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tsa0g+5/dap/GrXfAaOew/d1CCCunm60=" X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.14m (x86,32bit,MSVC) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jo1QRPwUcgDb+rOpFc6lcueWe7U= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:179972 comp.lang.lisp:290566 comp.lang.scheme:87245 comp.lang.c:978549 comp.lang.python:638729 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:09:18 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77186 Archived-At: In article <16a7e301-2e85-47eb-971e-79acc4e076a6@b35g2000yqi. googlegroups.com>, gnuist006@gmail.com says... >This makes some sense. He replied on the newsgroup in a lengthy post >that there are sufficient resources out there giving hint that no one >need help me out. Then I was called "lazy" in one email and tersely >given JUST the last name of an author who has many books each many >100s pages, when I asked for a relevant book, as if i am a scholar in >the field, although he did spend lots of words on irrelevant and >unbeneficial things which diminished my enthusiasm. Now, I find out >from you that he has/had a business concern or interest in a company >that is writing/wrote lisp interpreter in C. Correct me if I am making >an error. I dont want to think deprecatingly of any good soul but this >is what i experienced. No, you're not making a bad judgement. He's not the only one who treats newcomers with disrespect and scorn. Unfortunately many so-called experts in the field look down on newbies and mistreat them (in any programming language forum), forgetting in the process that they were also at a certain time newbies until someone gentle and nice enough teachers took the trouble to educate them. On the other hand there are less neurotic experts out there who are glad to help out someone learning. It's like in some universities, you have the bad "professors" who are freaks (probably they have a lot of problems at home, their wives screwing all the males on the block, daughters drug addicts etc) and want to take their hatred out on you, and you have the good and mentally stable professors who actually deserve their title.