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From: Uday S Reddy <u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: save-excursion again
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:03:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <i04mqj$915$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpqzeg6c6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 6/25/2010 10:20 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Which brings up a question for Stefan.  Are you saying that the
>> condition-case-save-point-and-mark aspect of `save-excursion' should
>> be abstracted out (say as `save-region') and separated from the
>> save-buffer aspect?
>
> Not sure what you mean.  If you mean we should introduce
> a save-excursion-but-not-buffer, then I think it's a bad idea, because
> such a thing would still have to save a marker (so there's no
> improvement in terms of the amount of data saved) and the semantics of
> "restore point in another buffer" is murky in Emacs.

I think the point is that save-excursion has been saving too much.  So, when we 
see a save-excursion in a piece of code, we are not sure whether it was meant 
to save the point and mark, or the current-buffer, or both.  It seems that the 
original developers were themselves unsure after a while.

I took Stephen's point as saying that, if we have separate save-current-buffer 
and save-region, with save-excursion strongly discouraged, we would promote a 
clearer programming style.

Cheers,
Uday




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-26 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-18  7:42 save-excursion again Uday S Reddy
2010-06-18 13:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-18 14:02   ` David Kastrup
2010-06-18 15:29     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-18 17:16   ` Uday S Reddy
2010-06-18 18:37     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-19 14:50     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-06-19 14:56       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-19 14:58         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-19 17:23           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-06-19 17:30             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-25 21:20             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-26  0:40               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-01  0:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-01  4:34                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-04 17:07                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-26 11:03               ` Uday S Reddy [this message]
2010-07-01  0:30                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-01  1:54                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-04 17:08                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-19 16:22       ` Uday S Reddy
2010-06-18 15:04 ` Davis Herring

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