From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:03:20 +0100 Organization: Janet Usenet Reading Service. Message-ID: References: <089883ee-0a63-4cb4-a0ec-d2fe4e71cc03@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <87wruco5yq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87wrubfd8p.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <848w6ndwn0.fsf@cs.bham.ac.uk> <87d3vx5cku.fsf@gmail.com> <87bpbcrdk5.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <4C17FE36.30102@thadlabs.com> <87r5k6sqg2.fsf@unm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291836842 5812 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 19:34:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:34:02 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 20:33:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQPm2-00051N-FR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:33:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50114 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQPm1-0003eN-LX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:33:57 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!feeder.news.heanet.ie!feed4.jnfs.ja.net!feed2.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!times.reader.netnews.ja.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: gromit.cs.bham.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: north.jnrs.ja.net 1276765403 19853 147.188.193.16 (17 Jun 2010 09:03:23 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@north.jnrs.ja.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:03:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <87r5k6sqg2.fsf@unm.edu> Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:179052 comp.emacs:100086 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75898 Archived-At: On 6/16/2010 8:55 PM, Evans Winner wrote: > ,------ Stefan Monnier wrote ------ > > | Another way to look at it: if you have hand-health > | problems, first try to unlearn to touch-type. > > I would be very interested if you were willing to expand on > this. Do you mean to say that touch typing is unhealthy in > general, or just more pragmatically that if it hurts when > you do X, then don't do X? As somebody that does touch typing and have had heavy RSI problems, I can throw some light on this. Touch typing is perfectly fine normal text, but it wasn't designed for Emacs. The heavy use of the little finger for Control and Meta keys puts undue load on it. Keyboards that had single Control or Meta keys worsened the problem by making the hands stretch over long distances. As part of my recovery from RSI, I had to retrain myself to avoid the use of Control/Meta keys for long periods (for instance by using the arrow keys or the mouse), and also to get away from the "home position" when needed so that I can use other fingers for Control/Meta keys. I am now perfectly fine for typing normal text, but I get sore tendons when I have to do TeX/LaTeX. They make a heavy use of '\' which is placed on lousy positions on most keyboards. Cheers, Uday