From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:34:23 +0100 Organization: Janet Usenet Reading Service. Message-ID: References: <87wruco5yq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87wrubfd8p.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <848w6ndwn0.fsf@cs.bham.ac.uk> <87d3vx5cku.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291834302 24520 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 18:51:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:51:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 19:51:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQP70-0007JR-3y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:51:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQP6z-0005jJ-0U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:51:33 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.84.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!feed4.jnfs.ja.net!feed2.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!times.reader.netnews.ja.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: acws-0068.cs.bham.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: north.jnrs.ja.net 1276536864 9297 147.188.194.56 (14 Jun 2010 17:34:24 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@north.jnrs.ja.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178933 comp.emacs:100027 comp.lang.lisp:289140 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75828 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> If line-move-visual was nil by default, would you have been able to set >> it to t in order to move around the log files? > > WADR, that's a silly question. This entire thread has been solely about > default settings, as are many discussions on the devlopers' mailing list. Sorry if it sounded silly. The setting of the default to t was precisely targeted to help people like you. Neither the setting nor the functionality existed before Emacs 23. So, you didn't miss anything. But, after having added this functionality, I think the developers believed that people like you might not have been able to discover the new functionality on your own, unless it was made the default. Are you agreeing with that assessment? Other than changing defaults, is there some other form of "advertising" the Emacs devs could have used to bring it to your attention? Cheers, Uday