From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday S Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <874ohen792.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <37661.130.55.118.19.1275949975.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276005961 1402 80.91.229.12 (8 Jun 2010 14:06:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:06:01 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 16:05:56 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLzRC-0006BE-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:05:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47219 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLzQj-0000c1-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48162 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLzDi-0003Vf-PB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLzDa-0000qX-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:51:55 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:47982) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLzDa-0000qC-Ha for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLzDW-0004i4-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:51:46 +0200 Original-Received: from acws-0068.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.194.56]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:51:46 +0200 Original-Received: from u.s.reddy by acws-0068.cs.bham.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:51:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: acws-0068.cs.bham.ac.uk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125635 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > > So, no we didn't open that can of worms. And please let's stop the > thread here. Sorry Stefan. The can of worms is never too far away :-( The decision is then that left, right, up and down do what their names imply, but Home and End do the same as C-a and C-e? What is the "beginning-of-line"? At the left, or the right, or "it depends"? Likewise for "beginning-of-sentence"? C-f moves right, and C-b moves left? Likewise for M-f, M-b, M-d, M-? And what about C-d and then? C-k kills line to the right of point, or left of point? Likewise for M-k? Some unifying principle to arrive at all these decisions would be very welcome! Cheers, Uday