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From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs ignores modified state of "untitled" buffer
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:32:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <htok53$dlq$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8E1EF5747B7A4183A0873F02FDBBF398@us.oracle.com>

Drew Adams wrote:
> You've offered this as command `switch-to-new-buffer' and put it on the
> `Buffers' menu as `Select New Buffer'.
> 
> I would prefer that it be considered an improved behavior for `Visit New File',
> which is currently just `find-file'. The use of your command is, I think, for
> new file buffers only, so that intention should be reflected in both the command
> name and menu-item name. The `Buffers' menu is the wrong place for this, IMO.
> 
> So I would suggest changing the command name to something like `new-file' or
> `visit-new-file' and (more importantly) replacing the `File' > `Visit New File'
> menu item with it.

The term "visit" has a very specific meaning in Emacs, and switch-to-new-buffer
doesn't actually visit a file (buffer-file-name is nil).  I would prefer a name
like open-new-file, defined an alias for switch-to-new-buffer.

It seems to me the File menu entries are named backwards: "Visit New File"
should be "Open New File", "Open File..." should be "Visit File...", and
"Open Directory..." should be "Visit Directory..."

> Those who are most likely to use such a menu item are newbies who expect that
> behavior. Any Emacs veteran who prefers `find-file' will not be likely to use
> the menu and choose `Visit New File'. And it is clear what a `new-file' command
> is for.
> 
> I agree with Lennart that you should think about proposing this to emacs-devel.
> I would support it, especially with the changes I just mentioned.

OK, we'll see how it goes.

Thanks,

-- 
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA




  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-28 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19 14:52 Emacs ignores modified state of "untitled" buffer Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-19 15:04 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-19 20:34 ` Stephen Berman
2010-05-20 12:45 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-20 13:29   ` Drew Adams
2010-05-20 14:00     ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21  2:00       ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21  2:06         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21  1:56     ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21  8:03       ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 13:17         ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21 13:59           ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 14:11             ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21 14:30               ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 17:15           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 20:49             ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 20:56               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 14:20       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-28 14:32         ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
2010-05-28 17:18           ` Drew Adams
2010-05-28 21:21             ` Stefan Vollmar
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2.1275067137.32597.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-05-29  1:04             ` Tim X

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