From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs ignores modified state of "untitled" buffer
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:32:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <htok53$dlq$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8E1EF5747B7A4183A0873F02FDBBF398@us.oracle.com>
Drew Adams wrote:
> You've offered this as command `switch-to-new-buffer' and put it on the
> `Buffers' menu as `Select New Buffer'.
>
> I would prefer that it be considered an improved behavior for `Visit New File',
> which is currently just `find-file'. The use of your command is, I think, for
> new file buffers only, so that intention should be reflected in both the command
> name and menu-item name. The `Buffers' menu is the wrong place for this, IMO.
>
> So I would suggest changing the command name to something like `new-file' or
> `visit-new-file' and (more importantly) replacing the `File' > `Visit New File'
> menu item with it.
The term "visit" has a very specific meaning in Emacs, and switch-to-new-buffer
doesn't actually visit a file (buffer-file-name is nil). I would prefer a name
like open-new-file, defined an alias for switch-to-new-buffer.
It seems to me the File menu entries are named backwards: "Visit New File"
should be "Open New File", "Open File..." should be "Visit File...", and
"Open Directory..." should be "Visit Directory..."
> Those who are most likely to use such a menu item are newbies who expect that
> behavior. Any Emacs veteran who prefers `find-file' will not be likely to use
> the menu and choose `Visit New File'. And it is clear what a `new-file' command
> is for.
>
> I agree with Lennart that you should think about proposing this to emacs-devel.
> I would support it, especially with the changes I just mentioned.
OK, we'll see how it goes.
Thanks,
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-28 14:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 14:52 Emacs ignores modified state of "untitled" buffer Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-19 15:04 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-19 20:34 ` Stephen Berman
2010-05-20 12:45 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-20 13:29 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-20 14:00 ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 2:00 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21 2:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 1:56 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21 8:03 ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 13:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21 13:59 ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 14:11 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-21 14:30 ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 17:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 20:49 ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-05-21 20:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 14:20 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-28 14:32 ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
2010-05-28 17:18 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-28 21:21 ` Stefan Vollmar
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1275067137.32597.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-05-29 1:04 ` Tim X
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