From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Keystroke inconsistencies between GUI and -nw emacs? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:37:01 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <20130821154911.1815b476@Yoda> <20130821183836.73ec49fc@Yoda> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377502663 19299 80.91.229.3 (26 Aug 2013 07:37:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 07:37:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 26 09:37:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VDrMv-0007xr-0R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:37:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49429 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDrMu-0000Hk-LY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDrMd-0000Gz-PR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:37:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDrMX-0005Yx-Vs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VDrMX-0005Yk-Oq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VDrMS-0007X8-V2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:37:16 +0200 Original-Received: from e182081105.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.182.81.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:37:16 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by e182081105.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:37:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e182081105.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:81Sps56sk1QWRZo9yFpPprGNzzg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93089 Archived-At: Marko Vojinovic writes: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:47:24 -0400 > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> > (1) Was this done by design? >> >> Yes, F10 is supposed to show you the menu-bar "the GUI way". In a tty >> this is not implemented (yet?), so it fallsback on tmm-menubar. > > I see, thanks. I am actually looking these days into the code that > should implement that MSDOS-like menu look&feel into the tty, but it > should still keep the keystroke-compatibility with the tmm-menubar, > only the visual appearance of the menus should be different. Depends on the terminal you're using. It's confusing and inconsistent between different terminal types. I ended up pretty much ignoring function keys when using terminal emacs after struggling with termcap/tty info etc etc. But then again I didnt stick at it!