From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Pool Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: support for bzr shelve/unshelve in vc-dir Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200912011947.nB1JlaAp027561@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200912030748.nB37m5V4022253@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87k4x431n2.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912030907.nB39781X022853@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <873a3s2cp9.fsf@telefonica.net> <87my1z2a6h.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912031848.nB3ImpMj027352@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87aaxz287w.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912031917.nB3JHnKX027584@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87my1zzqxq.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912032257.nB3Mv97m029382@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87d42vvabf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200912040147.nB41ldTH000836@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87hbs7zbs2.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912042118.nB4LIS4j009931@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <878wdiz9hz.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1260418808 21502 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2009 04:20:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:20:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 05:20:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NIaVS-0007Rt-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:19:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48825 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NIaVR-0001YQ-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NIaVL-0001Xd-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NIaVG-0001VY-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53823 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NIaVG-0001VV-AC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58213) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NIaVG-0005PO-2z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NIaVC-0007P4-9b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:19:42 +0100 Original-Received: from ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net ([150.101.112.44]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:19:42 +0100 Original-Received: from mbp by ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:19:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118511 Archived-At: On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:46:46 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> We talked about texinfo documentation at the time of accession to GNU. >> I understand the value in having every GNU program consistent but >> texinfo is not very technically easy given our platform and the >> technical environment of 2009, and in my opinion not a good use of >> time. > > I have no idea what you're referring to. We all know that Texinfo is > not as sexy as HTML and has its share of shortcomings, but it does its > job fairly well and has several features still mostly unmatched by any > other format (especially when accessed via an Info viewer such as the > one in Emacs). We've talked about this before, including in the bazaar list thread "Printable Documentation" in January this year, and in (filed by Stefan.) Let's discuss the practicalities in that bug not on the emacs list. > I think the question shouldn't be "should we do provide Texinfo", but > "how are we going to do it". I agree we should, it is just a question of someone getting around to doing the research and making a patch. Regardless of GNU-ness, there are people who find it convenient to read their documentation inside Info and we'd like to help them. -- Martin