From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Pool Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: support for bzr shelve/unshelve in vc-dir Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200912011947.nB1JlaAp027561@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200912030748.nB37m5V4022253@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87k4x431n2.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912030907.nB39781X022853@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <873a3s2cp9.fsf@telefonica.net> <87my1z2a6h.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912031848.nB3ImpMj027352@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87aaxz287w.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912031917.nB3JHnKX027584@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87my1zzqxq.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912032257.nB3Mv97m029382@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87d42vvabf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200912040147.nB41ldTH000836@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87hbs7zbs2.fsf@telefonica.net> <200912042118.nB4LIS4j009931@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <878wdiz9hz.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1260405215 22055 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2009 00:33:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:33:35 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 01:33:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NIWyF-0004kR-4S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:33:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35984 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NIWyE-0005rJ-D5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:33:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NIWqG-0002ny-VV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NIWqC-0002n6-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59396 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NIWqC-0002n2-8V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:55415) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NIWqB-0000TY-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NIWq9-000218-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:25:05 +0100 Original-Received: from ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net ([150.101.112.44]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:25:05 +0100 Original-Received: from mbp by ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:25:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 59 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118502 Archived-At: On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:52:04 -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > Óscar Fuentes wrote: > >> Contributing to Bazaar is difficult, they know it, and the developers >> are trying to alleviate the process. But in the end, Bazaar is a >> Canonical product and its development is guided by Canonical's business >> strategy. It's guided by Canonical, since they fund a lot of development, but also by the patches and proposals that people put up, including non-Canonical people and employees in their personal or discretionary time. Other GNU projects have been like this. We had got into a pattern of being two conservative and we are indeed trying to make it easier. If you think it's too tough to get a patch in, please tell me or tell Karl. > It's also a GNU project. People ought to be able to feel confident about > contributing to GNU projects. But when I had a quick look at the > conditions for becoming one: > > http://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.html > > I couldn't immediately see anything that would alleviate your worries. > But, I'm not sure exactly what your worries are. > While reading the conditions on that page, a first glance at the bzr > 2.0.2 source shows: it is distributed under GPLv2+ rather than v3+, > http://www.gnu.org/software/bzr does not exist, it does not have texinfo > documentation, We talked about texinfo documentation at the time of accession to GNU. I understand the value in having every GNU program consistent but texinfo is not very technically easy given our platform and the technical environment of 2009, and in my opinion not a good use of time. However, if someone has an idea by which we can for example produce texinfo as an output, we will look at it. We also don't use automake because it is not a good match for Python, and we don't use GUILE. The document mixes technical recommendations with more long-term issues. > it contains numerous references to the "Linux" operating > system, Apparently Richard will be in touch about this. > and there doesn't seem to be any reference in the --version > output or man-page to it being a GNU project. There are references in the documentation and on the web site, but possibly not enough. I thought I had fixed --version already, but it will be fixed now. These are just bugs. Reports or patches are always welcome. -- /home/mbp/.signature