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Subject: Re: Patch to INSTALL.CVS to clarify why `make bootstrap' sometimes
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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:57:03 -0400
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Stefan Monnier wrote:

> Rather than improve the documentation of our Makefile's brokenness,
> e should fix the beast.  E.g. `make bootstrap' should begin by doing
> a `maintainer-clean'.

I already made it run autogen-clean, which should fix the autoload issue.
More I think might be overkill.

But do what you like. People will still build some other way and get
all huffy when it fails.