From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: keyboard macro question Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: References: <578073a3-391f-481d-9d05-303bfef8e01c@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257997311 3788 80.91.229.12 (12 Nov 2009 03:41:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:41:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 12 04:41:45 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N8QZ6-0002vL-Dm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:41:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54772 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N8QZ5-0002vr-UQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:41:43 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 69 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1257995568 25523 166.84.1.2 (12 Nov 2009 03:12:48 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:12:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:174611 comp.emacs:99411 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69684 Archived-At: In article , Xah Lee wrote: >On Oct 17, 6:46 pm, dkco...@panix.com (David Combs) wrote: >> In article , >> Xah Lee wrote: >> >> Please -- I know you love your nice control-chars your posts >> always include, but it sure makes it near IMPOSSIBLE for us >> to read, or especially to NICELY save, them. >> >> Suggestion: >> >> Each post you make, DOUBLE it: first part "your way", then >> a dashed line or lines, then again, but without that stuff >> in it. Just plain ascii, minus any within-line control-chars. >> >> (Presumably you take the trouble to write your posts, to think >> them through, etc, because you want us to READ them, to BENEFIT >> from them, perhaps to even SAVE them. Seems to me that it would >> thus be to YOUR benefit to make them as easy as possible to read, >> and likewise to save away, maybe even for OTHERS to read (attributed >> to you, of course).) >> >> Thanks for at least considering the above. > >Hi David, > >was it you who wrote me at least twice about this issue in the past in >separate times? > >If i didn't recall incorrectly, i never got any reasons what is the >problem. > >The "control chars" you mention, are unicode characters, and pretty >standard ones, such as curly quotes and bullets. > >I wrote all my posts using just emacs, and they show correctly in just >about all web browsers from groups.google.com. There is no problem in >copy and pasting them, nor can i imagine there any problem in saving >them as file, in any of Windows, Mac, or linux. the encoding used is >utf-8, default in mac, linuxes, and fully supported Windows. > >unicode is charset in langs like xml, java... etc. > >can you be explicit exactly what is the problem? is it some news >reader that does not support unicode? i haven't tried, but it'd be a >major shame if u telling me emacs+gnus or Mozilla's Thunderbird does >not support unicode out of the box? > > Xah >∑ http://xahlee.org/ > >☄ You're writing for a web-browser? I don't use a web-browser for newsgroups -- I use "trn4". And with that, your unicode orwhatever looks pretty bad, unreadable in some cases. How about writing for just plain old ascii terminals, eg adm3a or vt-100 -- isn't that the working assumption for newsgroup text? David