From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: conditionals in elisp Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:07:44 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <87aazdunrb.fsf@galatea.local> <87fx943h1k.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256731730 16285 80.91.229.12 (28 Oct 2009 12:08:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:08:50 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 28 13:08:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N37KR-0004BK-Sb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:08:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N37KR-0001wu-1b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N37K5-0001vi-E4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:08:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N37K1-0001uh-TP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:08:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52858 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N37K1-0001ue-L9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:08:13 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:55208) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N37K1-0001KX-7c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:08:13 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1N37Jx-0003zW-4M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:08:09 +0100 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:08:09 +0100 Original-Received: from rileyrgdev by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:08:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69300 Archived-At: Sean Sieger writes: > The OP was looking for a quick lookup programmers guide to common elisp > constructs. The elisp manual is not really quite so convenient : good > though it can be. > > People frequently want to modify an existing feature without learning > the entire emacs infrastructure. > > Pointing to existing code is one such way to help. Suggesting he parse > it all with perl probably not quite so helpful .. > > Personally whenever I revisit elisp I find Xah Lee's tutorial helpful at > times. > > Look at me! I can challenge a knowledgeable contributor! (One whose > depth of knowledge is clearly illustrated in the archives.) Hold on one second there. I was not challenging Pascal's knowledge of Emacs or Elisp. I was merely suggesting that telling someone to write a perl script to parse elisp to find examples of conditionals was maybe not as helpful as pointing out a good resource for learning other than the elisp manual. > > One day you'll get off the fence and know your limitations as a > contributor or as a troll and become decidedly one or the other. My > guess is that you need a role model that is a better fit than Xah. I have no idea what you're talking about. While I realise Xah rattles some people his elisp "get going" tutorial is very good IMHO. Still, horse for courses, regard, r.