From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:26:38 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <37578bed-d355-4adf-aae1-319c9f002ecf@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <8763ak8rjv.fsf@fh-trier.de> <3d6bce8c-82aa-42ca-bc9a-0a641a7a31d7@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255706302 14473 80.91.229.12 (16 Oct 2009 15:18:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:18:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 16 17:18:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MyoZG-0004yo-S5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:18:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41764 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MyoZF-0006q0-Qy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:18:09 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.mixmin.net!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 83 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1+GBtETYAzSdlaRlncFb3EjDk8Woi4VejWjq1KtlKFZA1wLtjvleGsL9Wxt6SOvYP6uctOlr9Z9QNXr3+WfQI4WESl3otTnlzoRMwMm84EuSnw815MW6keAuiYl+kdlyyGgsEEjrv0Nqg== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@eternal-september.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:26:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX180Jk29NdQazKujrMEe+PiFtJnSAB3J5Uc= Cancel-Lock: sha1:RgNWFY1JVUZlvUoENHKudfi905Y= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:173939 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69021 Archived-At: Francis Moreau writes: > On 13 oct, 15:58, Richard Riley wrote: >> Jeff Clough writes: >> > From: Andreas Politz >> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:12:36 +0200 >> >> >> Francis Moreau writes: >> >> >>> On Oct 12, 2:56 pm, Richard Riley wrote: >> >>>> I think it is worth it because of the benefits of it being cradled by >> >>>> mother Emacs : having all my normal text tools for translation, >> >>>> spelling, searching etc in my gnus buffers is just too cool. It all >> >>>> works together too well. I do remember being frustrated earlier because >> >>>> of the incomprehensible manual and the raft of options (and being newish >> >>>> to emacs). But it was worth it. >> >> >>> But you probably get the same benefits with Mew... >> >> > Every Emacs feature I've wanted and tried to use works very well with >> > Mew, or at least no worse than to be expected under Windows. >> >> >> So what is your experience with Mew concerning ease of setup, huge mail >> >> boxes, message threading and general performance ? >> >> > Setting up Mew was several orders of magnitude easier than setting up >> > Gnus, which I was never able to successfully do.  A good part of this >> >> What part were you unable to do? Did you have it reading mail at all? >> > > BTW, one thing is really annoying with gnus is that it screw all my > current window configuration (window layout) when I start composing a > new article/mail. > > I did (setq gnus-use-full-window nil) but gnus always use a full > window when writing a new mail. > > Do you have/know any setup which could fix this behaviour ? > > thanks I do my gnus stuff on a separate "elscreen" so, no, I can't really help with that. ,---- | (require 'elscreen) ;; C-z n for new screen or next etc. | (require 'elscreen-gf) ;; C-z n for new screen or next etc. | | (defmacro elscreen-create-automatically (ad-do-it) | `(if (not (elscreen-one-screen-p)) | ,ad-do-it | (elscreen-create) | (elscreen-notify-screen-modification 'force-immediately) | (elscreen-message "New screen is automatically created"))) | | (defadvice elscreen-jump (before elscreen-jump-create activate) | (let ((next-screen (string-to-number (string last-command-event)))) | (when (and (<= 0 next-screen) | (<= next-screen 9) | (not (elscreen-screen-live-p next-screen))) | (elscreen-set-window-configuration | (elscreen-get-current-screen) | (elscreen-current-window-configuration)) | (elscreen-set-window-configuration | next-screen (elscreen-default-window-configuration)) | (elscreen-append-screen-to-history next-screen) | (elscreen-notify-screen-modification 'force)))) | | (defadvice elscreen-next (around elscreen-create-automatically activate) | (elscreen-create-automatically ad-do-it)) | | (defadvice elscreen-previous (around elscreen-create-automatically activate) | (elscreen-create-automatically ad-do-it)) | | (defadvice elscreen-toggle (around elscreen-create-automatically activate) | (elscreen-create-automatically ad-do-it)) | | (provide 'rgr-elscreen) `---- You might also consider winner-mode I think it is.