Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Water Lin]

I am using Windows XP system and Emacs23. I want to use aspell as my
spell checker.

I installed aspell successfully and I can use it from cmd.exe.

But after I add following line to .emacs file:

When I trigger aspell inside Emacs by M-x flyspell-mode, Emacs will
provide me with an error:
---------
Starting new Ispell process [default] ...
Enabling Flyspell mode gave an error
---------

I can't get more error message.

How can I solve it?

Thanks

Water Lin

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Water Lin]

Water Lin <WaterLin@ymail.invalid> writes:

> I am using Windows XP system and Emacs23. I want to use aspell as my
> spell checker.
>
> I installed aspell successfully and I can use it from cmd.exe.
>
> But after I add following line to .emacs file:
>
Sorry, I forget to put the code here which I put into .emacs file. The
line is:
----------
(setq-default ispell-program-name
              "C:/Program Files/Aspell/bin/aspell.exe")  


> When I trigger aspell inside Emacs by M-x flyspell-mode, Emacs will
> provide me with an error:
> ---------
> Starting new Ispell process [default] ...
> Enabling Flyspell mode gave an error
> ---------
>
> I can't get more error message.
>
> How can I solve it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Water Lin

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Marc Tfardy]

Water Lin schrieb:
> Water Lin <WaterLin@ymail.invalid> writes:
> 
>> I am using Windows XP system and Emacs23. I want to use aspell as my
>> spell checker.
>>
>> I installed aspell successfully and I can use it from cmd.exe.
>>
>> But after I add following line to .emacs file:
>>
> Sorry, I forget to put the code here which I put into .emacs file. The
> line is:
> ----------
> (setq-default ispell-program-name
>               "C:/Program Files/Aspell/bin/aspell.exe")  

And what value have ispell-dictionary? nil?

Did you installed some dictionary for aspell and can aspell find it?


regards
Marc

Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Water Lin]

Marc Tfardy <no@email.net> writes:

> Water Lin schrieb:
>> Water Lin <WaterLin@ymail.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> I am using Windows XP system and Emacs23. I want to use aspell as my
>>> spell checker.
>>>
>>> I installed aspell successfully and I can use it from cmd.exe.
>>>
>>> But after I add following line to .emacs file:
>>>
>> Sorry, I forget to put the code here which I put into .emacs file. The
>> line is:
>> ----------
>> (setq-default ispell-program-name
>>               "C:/Program Files/Aspell/bin/aspell.exe")  
>
> And what value have ispell-dictionary? nil?
>
> Did you installed some dictionary for aspell and can aspell find it?
>
>
> regards
> Marc
>

Thanks for your reminder. I didn't install a dictionary of aspell.

I didn't know I need to install dictionary separately.

After I install the dictionary, it works.

Thanks

Water Lin

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Water Lin]

Marc Tfardy <no@email.net> writes:

> Water Lin schrieb:
>> Water Lin <WaterLin@ymail.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> I am using Windows XP system and Emacs23. I want to use aspell as my
>>> spell checker.
>>>
>>> I installed aspell successfully and I can use it from cmd.exe.
>>>
>>> But after I add following line to .emacs file:
>>>
>> Sorry, I forget to put the code here which I put into .emacs file. The
>> line is:
>> ----------
>> (setq-default ispell-program-name
>>               "C:/Program Files/Aspell/bin/aspell.exe")  
>
> And what value have ispell-dictionary? nil?
>
> Did you installed some dictionary for aspell and can aspell find it?
>
>
> regards
> Marc
>

Two more question about using Aspell with flyspell mode.

The first question:

When Aspell finds an incorrect word, it will mark the incorrect word
with special underline and color. But there are also a lot of special
words like Flyspell, Aspell etc. which are meaningful but incorrect.

I want to let Flyspell to ignore these words. What's the command?


The second question:

After successfully installed Flyspell with Aspell, I find that the input
speed of my keyboard is a little slow and panic. It seems that flyspeel
will influence my input speed. What can I do with it?

My solution is:
-------
I disable Flyspell mode, but after I finish the email edition, I
will use M-x ispell-region to check my spell. Is it a good way?

Thanks

Water Lin

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Colin S. Miller]

Water Lin wrote:
<snip!>
> 
> When Aspell finds an incorrect word, it will mark the incorrect word
> with special underline and color. But there are also a lot of special
> words like Flyspell, Aspell etc. which are meaningful but incorrect.
> 
> I want to let Flyspell to ignore these words. What's the command?
If you want to add a word to your dictionary, use 'i'.
If you want to remove a word from aspell's dictionary, then
consult aspell's documentation (outside emacs).
You probably will have to rebuild the dictionary.

> 
> The second question:
> 
> After successfully installed Flyspell with Aspell, I find that the input
> speed of my keyboard is a little slow and panic. It seems that flyspeel
> will influence my input speed. What can I do with it?
You can keep typing; emacs will eventually catch up. Although the
lack of feedback on your typing can be disconcerting.
> 
> My solution is:
> -------
> I disable Flyspell mode, but after I finish the email edition, I
> will use M-x ispell-region to check my spell. Is it a good way?
Or ispell-buffer

flyspell-buffer  can also be used. It will highlight all the incorrect words,
but is very slow. Go make a cup of tea when you run it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Water Lin
> 

HTH,
Colin S. Miller

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Water Lin]

"Colin S. Miller" <no-spam-thank-you@csmiller.demon.co.uk> writes:

> Water Lin wrote:
> <snip!>
>>
>> When Aspell finds an incorrect word, it will mark the incorrect word
>> with special underline and color. But there are also a lot of special
>> words like Flyspell, Aspell etc. which are meaningful but incorrect.
>>
>> I want to let Flyspell to ignore these words. What's the command?
> If you want to add a word to your dictionary, use 'i'.
> If you want to remove a word from aspell's dictionary, then
> consult aspell's documentation (outside emacs).
> You probably will have to rebuild the dictionary.
>
The 'i' only works when I use M-x ispell-region or M-x ispell-buffer, is
it irght?

But if I am in a text mode buffer, the ispell marks one word as wrong
word and I want to add this word to my dictionary, what can I do?

>>
>> The second question:
>>
>> After successfully installed Flyspell with Aspell, I find that the input
>> speed of my keyboard is a little slow and panic. It seems that flyspeel
>> will influence my input speed. What can I do with it?
> You can keep typing; emacs will eventually catch up. Although the
> lack of feedback on your typing can be disconcerting.
>>
>> My solution is:
>> -------
>> I disable Flyspell mode, but after I finish the email edition, I
>> will use M-x ispell-region to check my spell. Is it a good way?
> Or ispell-buffer
>
> flyspell-buffer  can also be used. It will highlight all the incorrect words,
> but is very slow. Go make a cup of tea when you run it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Water Lin
>>
>
> HTH,
> Colin S. Miller

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Xah Lee]

On Oct 15, 2:47 am, Water Lin <Water...@ymail.invalid> wrote:
> Two more question about using Aspell with flyspell mode.
>
> The first question:
>
> When Aspell finds an incorrect word, it will mark the incorrect word
> with special underline and color. But there are also a lot of special
> words like Flyspell, Aspell etc. which are meaningful but incorrect.
>
> I want to let Flyspell to ignore these words. What's the command?

right click on the word, and there's a menu command to add the word to
your personal dict.

aspell creates your personal words file by default at
~/.aspell.en.pws

you can add or delete words there directly.

to find out what keyboard shortcut or command is called when right
click the menu item, you can use describe-key.


> The second question:
>
> After successfully installed Flyspell with Aspell, I find that the input
> speed of my keyboard is a little slow and panic. It seems that flyspeel
> will influence my input speed. What can I do with it?
>
> My solution is:
> -------
> I disable Flyspell mode, but after I finish the email edition, I
> will use M-x ispell-region to check my spell. Is it a good way?

this solution is what i use. In fact, i use speck-mode (look at
emacswiki.org for it). In my experience, it's faster, more robust. It
doesn't do spell checking as you type though. It's batch, but faster
than flyspell-buffer...

------------

spell checking is a critical feature of text editors. Spell checking
frustration with Emacs on the Windows OS is a frequently asked
question here. (the installation, configuration, is a huge pain in the
ass even for professional unix sys admins and longtime emacs users)
The GNU Emacs people, for some political, social , philosophical, or
technical reasons, do not or will not make emacs work out of box on
the Windows platform (their perspective may differ than the way i
expressed it here). This, in my opinion, is a major problem of
advancing emacs.

For issues related to this, see:

• Emacs Does Not Support Viewing Images Files In Windows
  http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_image_support.html

• Problems of Emacs Supporting Obsolete Systems
  http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_supporting_DOS.html

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Water Lin]

Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:

> On Oct 15, 2:47 am, Water Lin <Water...@ymail.invalid> wrote:
>> Two more question about using Aspell with flyspell mode.
>>
>> The first question:
>>
>> When Aspell finds an incorrect word, it will mark the incorrect word
>> with special underline and color. But there are also a lot of special
>> words like Flyspell, Aspell etc. which are meaningful but incorrect.
>>
>> I want to let Flyspell to ignore these words. What's the command?
>
> right click on the word, and there's a menu command to add the word to
> your personal dict.
>
> aspell creates your personal words file by default at
> ~/.aspell.en.pws

One more question here:

While I right click on the word, there is no menu. I don't know why. I
am using Emacs23 under Windows, I don't know if it is the reason.

After I used M-x ispell-buffer, I add some words into my personal
dictionary. Emacs puts the default personal dictionary at
~/en.pws
and
~/en.prepl

I don't know what job file "en.prepl" does.

I reset the default personal dictionary by
(setq ispell-personal-dictionary "~/emacs/aspell/en.pws")

But after restart the Emacs, I can't even use ispell.

What's wrong with my last code?

>
> you can add or delete words there directly.
>
> to find out what keyboard shortcut or command is called when right
> click the menu item, you can use describe-key.
>
>
>> The second question:
>>
>> After successfully installed Flyspell with Aspell, I find that the input
>> speed of my keyboard is a little slow and panic. It seems that flyspeel
>> will influence my input speed. What can I do with it?
>>
>> My solution is:
>> -------
>> I disable Flyspell mode, but after I finish the email edition, I
>> will use M-x ispell-region to check my spell. Is it a good way?
>
> this solution is what i use. In fact, i use speck-mode (look at
> emacswiki.org for it). In my experience, it's faster, more robust. It
> doesn't do spell checking as you type though. It's batch, but faster
> than flyspell-buffer...
>
> ------------
>
> spell checking is a critical feature of text editors. Spell checking
> frustration with Emacs on the Windows OS is a frequently asked
> question here. (the installation, configuration, is a huge pain in the
> ass even for professional unix sys admins and longtime emacs users)
> The GNU Emacs people, for some political, social , philosophical, or
> technical reasons, do not or will not make emacs work out of box on
> the Windows platform (their perspective may differ than the way i
> expressed it here). This, in my opinion, is a major problem of
> advancing emacs.
>
> For issues related to this, see:
>
> • Emacs Does Not Support Viewing Images Files In Windows
>   http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_image_support.html
>
> • Problems of Emacs Supporting Obsolete Systems
>   http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_supporting_DOS.html
>
>   Xah
> ∑ http://xahlee.org/
>
> ☄
>

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Re: Problem of binding aspell to Emacs

[Marc Tfardy]

Water Lin schrieb:
> I am using Windows XP system and Emacs23. I want to use aspell as my
> spell checker.
> 
> I installed aspell successfully and I can use it from cmd.exe.

Can you use aspell from everywhere? Maybe this is only %PATH% problem?


> But after I add following line to .emacs file:
> 
> When I trigger aspell inside Emacs by M-x flyspell-mode, Emacs will
> provide me with an error:
> ---------
> Starting new Ispell process [default] ...
> Enabling Flyspell mode gave an error
> ---------

I use cygwin on my XP with aspell (no ispell) and when I start
flyspell I see in *Messages* buffer following:

Starting new Ispell process [deutsch8] ...


This could point to a dictionary problem.

regards
Marc