allout encryption, which depends on pgg.el &c, has been failing due to a weird timing problem i've narrowed down to the pgg-gpg-process-region function. this is in emacs 23.0.60 built from a CVS HEAD checkout of an hour or so ago, and some earlier 23.0.60 versions. i've reproduced the problem using emacs -q and regularly launched emacs, etc. the problem is that pgg-gpg-process-region often returns a nil status despite successful decryption, unless a delay (eg, (sleep-for .3) is inserted between process start and later interaction with the process. with the delay, the status is something like 207 or 208, while without it the status is nil - yet, on examination the content is sucessfully decrypted. the size of the delay needs to be increased when the machine is heavily loaded, and can be reduced (on my thinkpad t43 2 GHz laptop, 3Gb ram, running kubuntu 8.0.4 +) to no lower than (sleep-for .2). rarely, the proper status is returned without the delay, depending on the machine load and other things i can't identify. considering the real-time sensitivity of the problem, your mileage will almost certainly vary! i originally thought the problem might be in gpg, but now figure it resides either in the emacs process mechanism, pgg's use of that, or somewhere in the combination of emacs and pgg. i've created a simple .el script, pggprob.el, with minimal code and data to produce the problem, and a patch, pggprob-patch.txt, with a single-line modification to pgg-gpg-process-region to work around the problem. both are attached. since the workaround is merely a timing delay, it's clearly not a fix! i'm hoping this is enough to enable others to reproduce the problem, and investigate... -- ken http://myriadicity.net If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file /home/klm/src/emacs-HEAD/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2008-06-22 on twist Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10400090 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x C-f l i b / e m a a l l s c r p g g p M-x e v a l - c u r M-. C-g M-> C-x C-e M-x e m a c s r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Source file `/home/klm/src/emacs-HEAD/lisp/pgg-gpg.el' newer than byte-compiled file Quit Mark set nil